harmonic balancer problem
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Instructor
Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Downtown
harmonic balancer problem
Hey my hot rod's harmonic balancer has been lightly rubbing against the timing chain cover and I finally took it off to reveal quite a groove in the cover.
My questions are:
1) whether I could have previously overtightened :smash: the crank bolt and caused the balancer to be pushed too close to the engine; or
2) whether the balancer could be shot and is moving on its own :confused: (there didn't seem to be any play or movement in the balancer under inspection); or
3) the crank bearings are worn and are causing the crank to float. :cry
4) could I just reinstall the balancer, only not tightening it so much, thereby leaving it further away from the engine, or should I put a small spacer to keep it from the engine and tighten it to a certain lbs.?
What do you think?
:chevy
My questions are:
1) whether I could have previously overtightened :smash: the crank bolt and caused the balancer to be pushed too close to the engine; or
2) whether the balancer could be shot and is moving on its own :confused: (there didn't seem to be any play or movement in the balancer under inspection); or
3) the crank bearings are worn and are causing the crank to float. :cry
4) could I just reinstall the balancer, only not tightening it so much, thereby leaving it further away from the engine, or should I put a small spacer to keep it from the engine and tighten it to a certain lbs.?
What do you think?
:chevy
Le Mans Master
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From: absecon nj
Re: harmonic balancer problem (14-Paul)
The balancer is shot,the outside of the harmonic balancer is sliding on the rubber ring ,ya better replace it,or youll be sorry.
[Modified by pats406nitrovette, 9:18 PM 7/17/2002]
[Modified by pats406nitrovette, 9:18 PM 7/17/2002]
Racer
Joined: Dec 1999
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From: Seattle, WA USA
Re: harmonic balancer problem (pats406nitrovette)
There's absolutely NO 'leaving it a little loose' allowed on a bolt that has a factory torque specification! :) Check the book and tighten it until it clicks - nothing else is acceptible.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: CA
Re: harmonic balancer problem (14-Paul)
I agree with pat. The center part is secure, but the outer ring is slipping aft. I just bought a new one less than a year ago from Jegs and it's already slipping. I should send it back now that I'm thinking of it.
Instructor
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From: Parker TX
Re: harmonic balancer problem (14-Paul)
Out of spec end play on the crank will do it to. Crank slides back a bit and the balancer bangs the timing cover. If the crank is moving and balancer is hitting regularly it will eventually seperate the outer ring from the inner ring. Had it happen to me 'eh! Just my $.02 :mad :cheers:
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Racer
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From: Niedernhausen, Germany
Re: harmonic balancer problem (14-Paul)
Agree: The balancer is shot (outer ring slippage). Get a new one and get the right one! Keep in mind there are two sizes for the mouse motor: 6,5 and 8" (much more expensive...).
The smaller unit should only be used for mild/stock engines - otherwise a moving ring is the result, as the vibration and intertia forces of a "wilder" engine will destroy the elastomere between the rings. This involves two problems: The ring might hit the chain-cover and ALSO (much more important), the timing (TDC-) mark will be way off. So get the right one and double-check timing mark position (you might have to bend the timing-tag) with a piston-stop for true TDC!
Good luck,
The smaller unit should only be used for mild/stock engines - otherwise a moving ring is the result, as the vibration and intertia forces of a "wilder" engine will destroy the elastomere between the rings. This involves two problems: The ring might hit the chain-cover and ALSO (much more important), the timing (TDC-) mark will be way off. So get the right one and double-check timing mark position (you might have to bend the timing-tag) with a piston-stop for true TDC!
Good luck,
Racer
Joined: Feb 2002
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From: Arlington Texas
Re: harmonic balancer problem (V8yunkie)
That's exactly what happened to mine. The rubber bond released and the outer part of the balance was rubbing on the timing chain cover. Like the other guys said that probably what's wrong with your's.
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