Installing Rear Window Glass -1980
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Le Mans Master
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Installing Rear Window Glass -1980
Does anyone know if window ribbon was used on the rear glass in a 1980 in the same way that it is used on the windshield? We're installing the rear glass and are having spacing issues with the rear package tray and excessive gap in the outside window trim.
If it was, do you know the size used?
Thanks... GUSTO
If it was, do you know the size used?
Thanks... GUSTO
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
You might check, but we have to use urethane now days.
When we install the rear windows now, we put spacers in there for our spacing (the glass will sink in the urethane if you don't) and then apply the urethane glue.
In the old days when we could ribbon seal them, I'm pretty sure we used the 3/8 bead.
Willcox
When we install the rear windows now, we put spacers in there for our spacing (the glass will sink in the urethane if you don't) and then apply the urethane glue.
In the old days when we could ribbon seal them, I'm pretty sure we used the 3/8 bead.
Willcox
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Melting Slicks
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What timing.....I am going to be putting the rear glass back onto my '81 and was wondering how to go about doing this.
Need to know more about these spacers; size, thickness, where they go....etc??????????????????????
Need to know more about these spacers; size, thickness, where they go....etc??????????????????????
Racer
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My 82 has never had the rear glass removed and there is a HUGE gap from the trim to the glass...without measuring I'd say 1/8-3/16 on the top and bad on the side..Just a s*** fit, irritates the hell out of me..
Melting Slicks
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I am actually more concerned about the comment that Willcox made of how the glass will sink in the urethane without spacers...which would likely mean that I would not be able to put the rear trim in.
Sounds like if I put the rear trim in first, then put the glass in, there would not be any gaps, but probably would not be able to remove the rear trim now. That is no good.
Guess I am going to have to do some dry fits to determine spacer size.
Sounds like if I put the rear trim in first, then put the glass in, there would not be any gaps, but probably would not be able to remove the rear trim now. That is no good.
Guess I am going to have to do some dry fits to determine spacer size.
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I am actually more concerned about the comment that Willcox made of how the glass will sink in the urethane without spacers...which would likely mean that I would not be able to put the rear trim in.
Sounds like if I put the rear trim in first, then put the glass in, there would not be any gaps, but probably would not be able to remove the rear trim now. That is no good.
Guess I am going to have to do some dry fits to determine spacer size.
Sounds like if I put the rear trim in first, then put the glass in, there would not be any gaps, but probably would not be able to remove the rear trim now. That is no good.
Guess I am going to have to do some dry fits to determine spacer size.
Good luck... GUSTO
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I talked with Kevin in the shop today about this.. He said we are using the 3/8 kit as the spacer between the glass and the frame now. He said it's easier than making the spacers and works perfect.
We don't use it for the glue, (we only use urethane) but for the spacing to keep the glass from sinking. On windshields he does a test fit with the glass and if needed (new glass his thinner) he goes up in size. He said he just cuts off the end of the roll and makes spacers about 1/2" wide, and then places them in the corners of the glass for the test fit.
Hope this helps.
We don't use it for the glue, (we only use urethane) but for the spacing to keep the glass from sinking. On windshields he does a test fit with the glass and if needed (new glass his thinner) he goes up in size. He said he just cuts off the end of the roll and makes spacers about 1/2" wide, and then places them in the corners of the glass for the test fit.
Hope this helps.
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I talked with Kevin in the shop today about this.. He said we are using the 3/8 kit as the spacer between the glass and the frame now. He said it's easier than making the spacers and works perfect.
We don't use it for the glue, (we only use urethane) but for the spacing to keep the glass from sinking. On windshields he does a test fit with the glass and if needed (new glass his thinner) he goes up in size. He said he just cuts off the end of the roll and makes spacers about 1/2" wide, and then places them in the corners of the glass for the test fit.
Hope this helps.
We don't use it for the glue, (we only use urethane) but for the spacing to keep the glass from sinking. On windshields he does a test fit with the glass and if needed (new glass his thinner) he goes up in size. He said he just cuts off the end of the roll and makes spacers about 1/2" wide, and then places them in the corners of the glass for the test fit.
Hope this helps.
Melting Slicks
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Need to start all over here.....
I understand that once the urethane cures the glass is held fixed; no more sinking.
What my understanding is after putting down a bead of urethane, then placing the glass in place, the glass will sink into the urethane and be too low. Is this correct?
So spacers are needed to keep the glass from sinking. Now I got lost when Willcox wrote, "using the 3/8 kit as the spacer." Is this in reference to the Window-Weld Ribbon Sealer?
I understand that once the urethane cures the glass is held fixed; no more sinking.
What my understanding is after putting down a bead of urethane, then placing the glass in place, the glass will sink into the urethane and be too low. Is this correct?
So spacers are needed to keep the glass from sinking. Now I got lost when Willcox wrote, "using the 3/8 kit as the spacer." Is this in reference to the Window-Weld Ribbon Sealer?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Need to start all over here.....
I understand that once the urethane cures the glass is held fixed; no more sinking.
What my understanding is after putting down a bead of urethane, then placing the glass in place, the glass will sink into the urethane and be too low. Is this correct?
So spacers are needed to keep the glass from sinking. Now I got lost when Willcox wrote, "using the 3/8 kit as the spacer." Is this in reference to the Window-Weld Ribbon Sealer?
I understand that once the urethane cures the glass is held fixed; no more sinking.
What my understanding is after putting down a bead of urethane, then placing the glass in place, the glass will sink into the urethane and be too low. Is this correct?
So spacers are needed to keep the glass from sinking. Now I got lost when Willcox wrote, "using the 3/8 kit as the spacer." Is this in reference to the Window-Weld Ribbon Sealer?
Yes, that's correct. The glass will sink down in the urethane until it cures.
The 3/8 ribbon kit (what we used to use to install glass) works as the spacer now needed to keep the glass from sinking. Just make sure you place them in an area where it will not affect the sealing of the urethane to the glass.
What complicates things is when you are doing a new windshield (thinner)... Then you should test the fit and possibly use something wider as your spacer.
Melting Slicks
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Okay think I got it. And just doing the rear glass, windshield was not taken out for the repaint. Only reason I took the rear glass out was because many of the trim clips were broken and only way to replace them was to take the rear glass out. What a "pane" that was.....yuk, yuk, yuk.