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Old May 12, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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I would to change out the lines that came with my borgenson kit and use some hoses that bend a little easier. What can I use.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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You can check out places that make hoses. Any contractor can direct you to the nearest place because we all use them and you can pick the hoses and fittings depending on its use.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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After reading how stiff and difficult they were, I was prepared to really battle the hoses. However, once I found the best way to route them I simply used one hand to take tension off of the end while I threaded the fittings with the other hand. It didn't happen the first time but it didn't take long at all. I made sure not to tighten any of them until they were all started. The hose w/o an end fitting, that slides over the tube on the PS pump, was tough to slide on. That took more effort than the rest and at least a dozen grunts before it was on far enough to be comfortable with. In any case, it's very do-able and I figured those hoses were probably going to live a long life because they're so beefy.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 11:10 PM
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Try a Parker Hydraulics store for fittings and hoses.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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I second the Parker Store for hoses, they sould have a super flexable hose. You may want to buy the fittings and hose unassembled. Install the fittings, mount the hose to one fitting, route the hose to the seconed fitting, now mark the hose for length and both ends for fitting attachment to the hose, sometimes referred to as fitting angle. Remember that hose has a natural arch to it from bing stored on a reel. Then you will have go back to store to have the fittings crimped on.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 07:53 AM
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After reading how stiff and difficult they were, I was prepared to really battle the hoses. However, once I found the best way to route them I simply used one hand to take tension off of the end while I threaded the fittings with the other hand. It didn't happen the first time but it didn't take long at all. I made sure not to tighten any of them until they were all started. The hose w/o an end fitting, that slides over the tube on the PS pump, was tough to slide on. That took more effort than the rest and at least a dozen grunts before it was on far enough to be comfortable with. In any case, it's very do-able and I figured those hoses were probably going to live a long life because they're so beefy.
Same here, turned out being a not a big issue, just a little patience is needed.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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540,

I have a Hydroboost and a Holden master cylinder thrown in, but for you, I would recommend considering this. Before the HB, I didn't like the 180 degree bend that I had to put in the return line to make it fit onto the return nipple on the pump, so I thought about making it easier. There are two ways to do this.

One is to remove the pump, drain it and unsolder the return nipple ( that points down at about 4 o'clock looking from the rear ) and rotate it about 180 degrees so that it points up at about 10 o'clock and re-solder it in. Then you just cut the return line accordingly and there is no bend in the return line.

What I ended up doing was to remove the return nipple entirely and braze in a dash 6 AN male fitting that pointed straight out to the rear. Then I had a dash 6 AN female fitting ( with a 90 degree bend ) fitted onto the shortened rubber return line. This made fitting the return line as easy as pie.

It's a bit of work to remove and replace the pump, but if I was going to do another one, I wouldn't hesitate to do it this way again.

Regards from Down Under.

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Old May 14, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aussiejohn
540,

I have a Hydroboost and a Holden master cylinder thrown in, but for you, I would recommend considering this. Before the HB, I didn't like the 180 degree bend that I had to put in the return line to make it fit onto the return nipple on the pump, so I thought about making it easier. There are two ways to do this.

One is to remove the pump, drain it and unsolder the return nipple ( that points down at about 4 o'clock looking from the rear ) and rotate it about 180 degrees so that it points up at about 10 o'clock and re-solder it in. Then you just cut the return line accordingly and there is no bend in the return line.

What I ended up doing was to remove the return nipple entirely and braze in a dash 6 AN male fitting that pointed straight out to the rear. Then I had a dash 6 AN female fitting ( with a 90 degree bend ) fitted onto the shortened rubber return line. This made fitting the return line as easy as pie.

It's a bit of work to remove and replace the pump, but if I was going to do another one, I wouldn't hesitate to do it this way again.

Regards from Down Under.

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This is what I have ended up doing as well!

Converted the lines to AN6 fittings and it works great!

What you will need is
16mm x 1.5mm O ring fitting
18mm x 1.5mm O ring fitting
3x90* AN6 fittings
Power steering line
And fitting to convert PS pump to AN6 fitting

All parts are available from Russell performance
http://www.russellperformance.com

Make sure to use proper PS parts!
I didn't to start with! Lol

Last edited by C3Paul; May 14, 2014 at 04:38 PM.
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I didn't find them that bad.. once I found the best way to run them it wasn't bad at all,
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