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Old May 14, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Default O2 Sensors on LS conversion with Hooker sidepipes

I'm getting ready to start the engine wiring on my LS conversion. When reading for the placement of the O2 Sensors They are recommended to being placed 18" from the Heads. The only way to do this is to mount the O2 on the primary tubes. The reason is to get the sensor to 600 deg for correct readings.

Has anyone tried to use heated O2 sensors? Placing them at the collector and what did you need to change on the tune?

If so what part # did you use and where did you place them.

I would like to here on all your thoughts on this.

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Mine are placed in the collectors on my Ls3. Seems to work fine there.
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Mine are placed in the collectors on my Ls3. Seems to work fine there.
Are you using stock 2 wire sensors or heated ones? Also where did you mount them? Can you post a picture on where you welded the bung.

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I highly do NOT recommend putting the O2 sensor in a primary tube, if you do you are only reading that one cylinder. I have it in my collector and have zero issues.

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My car is at American Racing headers having the exhaust system made for it. They are putting the O2 sensors in the collectors as they do for all their systems. They even do it for all the new cars also. I do not have a picture of it yet. Even my old Gen1 fuel injected SB I put them in the collectors. Put them In The 3 or 9 o'clock position
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Mine are placed in the collectors on my Ls3. Seems to work fine there.
Are you running long tube headers or sidepipes?
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Originally Posted by Corey_68
I highly do NOT recommend putting the O2 sensor in a primary tube, if you do you are only reading that one cylinder. I have it in my collector and have zero issues.
Corey, I agree with not putting them in the Primary, but with the distance from the heads to the collectors on side pipes just wondering if the O2 sensors can reach the 600 deg required. If I would run the heated O2's would I get better results?
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OK, I know 100% that the C5 and the 2005 C6 both use 4-wire heated O2 sensors. The 2005 sensor p/n also fits all other C6's so all the LS engines used heated O2 sensors. I've also never seen a 2-wire sensor before. GM started with a 1-wire sensor then switched to either 3-wire or 4-wire sensors. So, where did you get 2-wire O2 sensors and what engine management system is using them?

The stock 4-wire LS sensors will work fine in the collectors. You may want or need to increase the closed loop integrator time since it takes longer for the exhaust to reach the sensors when they are further down the tubes.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
OK, I know 100% that the C5 and the 2005 C6 both use 4-wire heated O2 sensors. The 2005 sensor p/n also fits all other C6's so all the LS engines used heated O2 sensors. I've also never seen a 2-wire sensor before. GM started with a 1-wire sensor then switched to either 3-wire or 4-wire sensors. So, where did you get 2-wire O2 sensors and what engine management system is using them?

The stock 4-wire LS sensors will work fine in the collectors. You may want or need to increase the closed loop integrator time since it takes longer for the exhaust to reach the sensors when they are further down the tubes.
I was just thinking the non heated sensor were 2 wire. Ground and data. I must be wrong... I'm just trying to get as much info together before I start the wiring. I do not have the harness yet but will be purchasing one soon.

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definitely use heated o2 sensors. I'm running one on my '81 with sidepipes in the left collector.
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Here are the stock O2 sensors from my 09 LS3. 4 wire ones.

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Default Exhaust Manifolds.

Didn't realize that hooker made LS conversion header/side pipes. I used stock C5 exhaust manifolds and the O2 bung is not 18" away. By the way these stock exhaust manifolds flow better than most headers. What ECU are you planning on using? That determines the type of O2 sensor you need to use, wide or narrow band. Need a little more info on your set up to help.
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...e_header_test/

Originally Posted by Tim 1973
I'm getting ready to start the engine wiring on my LS conversion. When reading for the placement of the O2 Sensors They are recommended to being placed 18" from the Heads. The only way to do this is to mount the O2 on the primary tubes. The reason is to get the sensor to 600 deg for correct readings.

Has anyone tried to use heated O2 sensors? Placing them at the collector and what did you need to change on the tune?

If so what part # did you use and where did you place them.

I would like to here on all your thoughts on this.

Thanks

Tim

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Originally Posted by donnie1956
What are you planning on using,exhaust manifolds or headers?
He's using Hooker side pipes as the topic states.
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Originally Posted by donnie1956
Didn't realize that hooker made LS conversion header/side pipes. I used stock C5 exhaust manifolds and the O2 bung is not 18" away. By the way these stock exhaust manifolds flow better than most headers. What ECU are you planning on using? That determines the type of O2 sensor you need to use, wide or narrow band. Need a little more info on your set up to help.
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...e_header_test/
I modified a set of Hooker side pipe headers to fit a LS


I'm going with a 24x system, 9354896 ECM
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