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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Installed a 502 crate with th400 in my 1978. Seems to fit fine. Have a Elelbrock short water pump with a three groove pully I got from a vette parts house. The power steering pump has a two groove cast iron pulley. The harmonic balancer has a two groove pully.
Problem is the belts do not align up. The 1969 shop manual shows a water pump belt from crank pully to the wp (fits ok). Then a belt from crank pully to the power steering pump (does not align). Then a belt from the powe steering pump to the alternator (does not align).

Don't know what I have missed, all the pulleys seemed to match the range of corvette years......am trying to duplicate the 1969 BB with AC and PS.

Any help is appreciated.
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Is the harmonic balancer seated fully? The alternator pulley is off-set, is it correct?
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Old May 25, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jnb5101
Is the harmonic balancer seated fully? The alternator pulley is off-set, is it correct?
The HB came on the crate motor. I believe it is tight.
The alternator pully is like one groove short to match up with the PS pulley.

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Just went through this (on the stand)

If the P/S pulley needs to come forward, try backing off the exhaust stud and see if that helps. If it does, see how much of a gap it made and add that in washers (just easier than removing everything and trying one washer, then again to try another / thicker.

Also, J. Shea answered a question I had recently concerning play on the P/S shaft, there should be some (mine is about 1/16+) to help alignment.

For the alt. I can't really say, but see where you are after the P/S is correct. I went to a CS144 so it's a different set of problems, ended up machining the back of the pulley to bring it aligned.

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Originally Posted by LYNNTEE
The HB came on the crate motor. I believe it is tight.
The alternator pully is like one groove short to match up with the WP pully or PS pulley.
The BB pulley is extra long, do you have the right one?
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On my '71 big block, the middle belt goes from the crank to the ps pump to the water pump. The alternator has spacers on the back side that allow it to be lined up. Mine were all messed up when I got it but enough realigning and putting the spacers in right and I was able to get it to line up. Here's what my alternator looks like...not 100% sure that's original since bubba had his hands on it before me, but it's straight as an arrow.

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use shims under the water pump pulley to move it out for better alignment, as needed.
A trick, I use when assembling unknown pulley config. -- use a yard stick, lay it across the face of the pulleys, skinny edge against pulley dia. almost as good as a laser sight !
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Originally Posted by a71vette
On my '71 big block, the middle belt goes from the crank to the ps pump to the water pump. The alternator has spacers on the back side that allow it to be lined up. Mine were all messed up when I got it but enough realigning and putting the spacers in right and I was able to get it to line up. Here's what my alternator looks like...not 100% sure that's original since bubba had his hands on it before me, but it's straight as an arrow.

Interesting. Nice picture but can't really see the belt from the PS pump to the alternator pulley. The assembly manuals for the 1969 and the 1974 show a three belt system.
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