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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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Default flushing AC system for R134 conversion

Another post asks what is involved in R12 to R134 conversion. No one
mentioned flushing the system. I thought you needed to
spray a flushing solvent in the lines, evaporator and condensor and then
use an air hose to force the solvent out. After this step, then a
vacume would be applied.
Is the flushing needed?
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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Mark,
My thought is that if you are going to do it, then do it right. That would mean flushing the system to get all the old oil out. If you don't it will pool up in the low spots and decrease the cooling capacity as all of the condensor and evaporator would not be available. Also change the o-rings and replace the dryer. Then you are ready for pulling a vacuum on it to look for leaks.

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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 01:09 AM
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Mark,
My thought is that if you are going to do it, then do it right. That would mean flushing the system to get all the old oil out. If you don't it will pool up in the low spots and decrease the cooling capacity as all of the condensor and evaporator would not be available. Also change the o-rings and replace the dryer. Then you are ready for pulling a vacuum on it to look for leaks.
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Blow the lines out before you use the solvent. There is a good amount of oil left after taking off the dryer in the condensor and evapertor. :yesnod:
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:45 AM
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Flushing seems to create more problems than it solves. You may get oil out but then you have the flushing agent to contend with. The liquid flush sold today does NOT eveporate and is very difficult to get out. The old R-11 flush is fine butI haven't seen that for a few years. Just remove the oil from the compressor and replace the drier. That will get most of the old oil. As long as you use ESTER oil you will be fine.
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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For what it's worth I seen O'Reilly Auto Parts had a sale on the conversion kit. It's regular $39.99, on sale for $36.99. The kit contains all the fittings, hoses, and two large cans of 134a and oil. :cheers:
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Default Re: flushing AC system for R134 conversion (mark79,80)

Thanks for the answers.
Any problem with using a blow gun from an air compressor to
blow out the lines, condensor and evaporator? I realize that
some water vapor may be introduced but that should
be removed by the vacume pump.
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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That is not a problem IF .... You have a vacuum pump that wil pull a vacuum of 28"hg ore more... You must also leave the pump running for a few hours to get all of the moisture. Also blow the air through a water seperator before it goes into the system. These are available at auto body supply places for the air line right at the spray gun and are cheap. :cool:
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