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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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I attempted to set my initial timing on my c3 after replacing the intake and building the engine back up. Following instruction from another thread, I manually turned the balancer to 12 BTDC. From there I established the position of the number one plug wire by pointing the rotor to a position of the number one wire. Then wired the plugs and distributor from there. I left the distributor loose to keep a little play for best positioning. The car runs good but when I use a timing light, the mark on the balancer is no where in sight when the number one plug fires. Did I go wrong somewhere along the way?

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I attempted to set my initial timing on my c3 after replacing the intake and building the engine back up. Following instruction from another thread, I manually turned the balancer to 12 BTDC. From there I established the position of the number one plug wire by pointing the rotor to a position of the number one wire. Then wired the plugs and distributor from there. I left the distributor loose to keep a little play for best positioning. The car runs good but when I use a timing light, the mark on the balancer is no where in sight when the number one plug fires. Did I go wrong somewhere along the way?

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I recently had the same problem on my 72 sb. The outer ring on the harmonic balancer slipped. I think this is common problem on those old balancers.
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Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. It seems a little jumpy particularly when cold, and may be lacking a little bit of horse power.
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Sounds like you got lucky and had the #1 piston on the compression stroke and not exhaust.

Turn the distributor to get the timing marks where you want them. See if it runs better.
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Sounds like you got lucky and had the #1 piston on the compression stroke and not exhaust.

Turn the distributor to get the timing marks where you want them. See if it runs better.
I turned the distributor the full range available and it wasn't enough to get the mark to show up in that view.
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Then you're off by a tooth. Re-index the distributor after making sure the timing marks at TDC are accurate.
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Then you're off by a tooth. Re-index the distributor after making sure the timing marks at TDC are accurate.
Thanks Mike. I'll give it a try. How much will the distributor reposition realigning the one tooth? It seems like there were only two positions where I could get the distributor seated which aligned the distributor about 180 degrees from where I have it now.
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Originally Posted by hickokcpa
Thanks Mike. I'll give it a try. How much will the distributor reposition realigning the one tooth? It seems like there were only two positions where I could get the distributor seated which aligned the distributor about 180 degrees from where I have it now.
The trick in physically turning the distributor "one tooth", is that you also have to rotate the oil pump drive the same amount. Remember, the oil pump drives off the bottom of the distributor's drive gear, by engaging the slot in the oil pump driveshaft.
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After you move the distributor one tooth the distributor will not be flush with the manifold.
Sticking up about 3/8 of a inch.
Just crank the starter for a second and when the slot lines up the distributor will drop down flush.
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Thanks for the input and Ideas. I'll give this a shot. How far is "one tooth" when realigning the rotor? 10 degrees? Thanks again everyone!
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Your best bet is to email "Lars"
V8fastcars@man.com
and ask for his "How to install your distributor" paper.
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Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
Your best bet is to email "Lars"
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Thank you. I emailed him.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Grimsrud

Check out the bottom of this link for a few of his papers. One of them specifically walks you through this process.
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Originally Posted by Postal123
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Grimsrud


Check out the bottom of this link for a few of his papers. One of them specifically walks you through this process.
Awesome! Thanks.
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