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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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The Phantom II and the Phaser II claim that radar guns can't get a reading if you have one of these because they scramble their signal and they will pay any traffic ticket you get. Dose anyone have one of these and dose it really work? A person I know says that he has seen cops bang their radar gun as if it was faulty when he drives by.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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The Phantom II and the Phaser II claim that radar guns can't get a reading if you have one of these because they scramble their signal and they will pay any traffic ticket you get. Dose anyone have one of these and dose it really work? A person I know says that he has seen cops bang their radar gun as if it was faulty when he drives by.
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I saw some independent tests of Radar/Laser jammers and the Phazer and Phantom didn't have ANY effect on the police radar/lasar guns...
The only LASAR jammers that worked good were the Blinder MT-10 and the K40 Diffuser Plus... All the other devices provided low or no protection against lasar. The only RADAR jammers that actually work are illegal and can get you in big trouble.... The ones that are advertised as LEGAL - DON't WORK!!! Don't throw your money out of the window!

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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The only RADAR jammers that actually work are illegal and can get you in big trouble.... The ones that are advertised as LEGAL - DON't WORK!!! Don't throw your money out of the window!

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:yesnod: Besides, radar detects your WHOLE car not just one portion of it, that it laser
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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It seems to me..the only way you can 'jam' a beam of light (i.e. laser) is to diffuse it...since that beam of light can be pointed at any particular part of your car - I dont see how any device - suction cupped to your windshield is going to be able to do ANYTHING.

If you want to make your car invisible to laser guns then paint your car with a thick coat of primer - flat black - then sand it lightly with 80 grit paper, this will cause any light striking your car to be highly diffused as the albedo of your car's surface will be significantly reduced....

Real Radar jammers transmit on the same frequency as the radar it intends to jam in an effort to falsify the readings or overpower the reciever on the other end (as I understand anyway). Fiberglass is more or less transparant to radar, but the underlying steel is not.

I wouldnt waste my time on a radar jammer any more than I would put slick-50 in my crankcase, either slow down or take your chances.....

A person I know says that he has seen cops bang their radar gun as if it was faulty when he drives by.
I suspect a person you know - exaggerates heavily - or is suffereing from self-deception....this device works...It must - I have the device...I speed...I have got no tickets...ergo..pbbbbbbbbbbbtttttt - I speed, have never had such a device and havent got a ticket in over 8 years......

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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It seems to me..the only way you can 'jam' a beam of light (i.e. laser) is to diffuse it...since that beam of light can be pointed at any particular part of your car - I dont see how any device - suction cupped to your windshield is going to be able to do ANYTHING.

If you want to make your car invisible to laser guns then paint your car with a thick coat of primer - flat black - then sand it lightly with 80 grit paper, this will cause any light striking your car to be highly diffused as the albedo of your car's surface will be significantly reduced....

Real Radar jammers transmit on the same frequency as the radar it intends to jam in an effort to falsify the readings or overpower the reciever on the other end (as I understand anyway). Fiberglass is more or less transparant to radar, but the underlying steel is not.

I wouldnt waste my time on a radar jammer any more than I would put slick-50 in my crankcase, either slow down or take your chances.....

A person I know says that he has seen cops bang their radar gun as if it was faulty when he drives by.

I suspect a person you know - exaggerates heavily - or is suffereing from self-deception....this device works...It must - I have the device...I speed...I have got no tickets...ergo..pbbbbbbbbbbbtttttt - I speed, have never had such a device and havent got a ticket in over 8 years......
For laser - the K40 and the Blinder MT-10 actually work in most cases. They have been tested by independent companies and universities and worked great in most tests.

:cheers:

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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Check out http://www.radartest.com/
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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For laser - the K40 and the Blinder MT-10 actually work in most cases. They have been tested by independent companies and universities and worked great in most tests.

:cheers:

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from the site radartest.: The Blinder M-10 Twin jammed all three of our laser guns-but ONLY when they were aimed at the front license plate. Shifting the aim to a headlight or the air conditioning condenser, visible through the cooling slot in the lower bumper, produced INSTANT target speeds EVERY time.


The K40 Diffuser Plus .....Like the Blinder with its similar array of low-powered LEDs, the Diffuser Plus was able to jam our three laser guns only if the plate itself was targeted. Once the aim was shifted, often by as little as six inches, the Mustang was nailed every time. We also noticed that the K40 jammer's performance was greatly reduced when its lens was coated by road film and dust.

Sorry, these dont sound all that effective to me, especially if the only way to jam the guns is to target the Jammer!!!! You would be better off flushing the $300 these items cost - down the toilet IMO on the other hand the $350 lidatek laser echo seems to actually work radartest.com said:
The Laser Echo with its powerful GaAs laser was the only unit able to defeat all three lasers regardless of where they were aimed. Even when tested with a single transmitter the unit proved highly effective.

Still, am I driving that slow :)...I havent had $350 worth of tickets over the last 15 years - maybe 20 - I feel fairly certain that a $350 investment wont pay off in my case.



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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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Who will build the first "stealth vette"? :lol: :lol: :cheers:
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Laser Echo seems to be a great product!! I might give it a try!!

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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A good eye and a CB radio will save you most of the time and there more fun than that little box on your window and cost less. :D
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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A good eye and a CB radio will save you most of the time and there more fun than that little box on your window and cost less. :D
I have a UNIDEN BEARCAT BCT-12 which looks like a radar detector but actually is a police radio scanner!! It also warns you if police is using Car to Car Radio which is used when they check the speed of a car without using radar or laser... It's really great but can be annoying ...

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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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For now, the radar detector and slowing up will have to prevail :yesnod:
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Here are my tips for traveling at higher speeds.

1. Get a good radar detector. Older passports and escorts on ebay can be had cheap and they still do a great job.

2. Learn what the cops are driving and learn to spot the cars in a hurry. Ford Crown Vics are only driven by cops and the elderly, always slow down when you see one. Learn to spot Police spec Tahoe's and Impalas.

3. Look for spots on the road where cops can sit and hid. Pay attention to those spots.

4. Pay extreme attention when you drive, look for brake lights. Looks for cars parked in weird spots. Really keep an eye out for the cops, if you can spot them before they spot you, half the battle is one.

5. Keep the speed at night down. Its almost impossible to see a cop car a night.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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I got sucked in on the phaser a couple of years ago. The owner on down should all be shot for fraud.

If I sold you a rock for $200 and told you the same story and it's so good that I'll pay your tickets to a certian amount if you fall into some guide lines. so all I would ever have to pay back is $100 max. and even if every purchaser put in the max claim which you can't if you read the fine print your still one hundred ahead . :mad
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Just remember to read the fine print. true radar jammers are ILLEGAL by federal mandate I.E. the FCC. most of those jammers have fine print saying not for use oon highways or some such
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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there was a thread a while ago where someone was thinking about installing tin foil on the underside of the hood/ fenders... all crinkled up... flat black paint... so radar the first metal it hits... reflects all different directions

Kidna a neat idea... dunno if it would work or not tho...

Rumor has it that the C3's radiator leans back enough that if a radar wave hits it... it bounces it into space... but what happens if it hits your windsheild? :jester

I dont think they have "that" good of aim :D
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I hope no-one puts crinkled Aluminum foil under their vette. :lol:
I hope anyone that has - will take it out. :yesnod:

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Couple years ago I did some body work on the speed racer...made all body panels flat, angular, painted flat black, zig-zag seams...sculpted heat hiders around exhaust...also use my Magic Mystery Marvel Oil decoder radar ring and glow in the dark bobblehead anti-radar Jesus on the dash. Always surround myself and car with white anti-ticket light before rolling. Click the heels of my magic slippers together, saying "There's no place like jail".
And it works!! You may laugh, but I know it is working.
Oh, ya.. I forgot.... I also drive the speed limit.... :blueangel:
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Save your money, drive the speed limit, and you never have to worry about radar. :yesnod:
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