C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Do fan clutches ever go "bad"?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:08 PM
  #1  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default Do fan clutches ever go "bad"?



Give this a listen. Fan will not turn when car is off. I think it should, hence why I'm thinking the fan clutch is bad. Spreader bar is clean of the pullies and fan. Fan is not touching the shroud. Alt and p/s pullies are not touching anything. I do need to replace the belts though.

Thoughts?

Dodosmike
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:18 PM
  #2  
Sayfoo's Avatar
Sayfoo
Safety Car
Veteran: Army
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,228
Likes: 643
From: Orange County Ca
Default

Yes, they do go bad. Mine spins easily with the engine off--not totally free, but easily.
Sounds like the blades are nicking something?
I'd check it out soon, radiators are expensive.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:24 PM
  #3  
dugsgms74's Avatar
dugsgms74
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 904
Likes: 46
From: Crestline CA
Default

Yes, they do lock up sometimes. A locked up fan clutch will sound like a jet engine going down the road.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:32 PM
  #4  
SB64's Avatar
SB64
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 793
Default fan

They also can leak. They are filled with an oil like fluid and sealed when made. Once the seal leaks it needs replacing. You can have it restored based on what year and how original you are.
ZIO







1st shot is an aftermarket, the 2nd is my correct restored fan clutch.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:46 PM
  #5  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default

Originally Posted by dugsgms74
Yes, they do lock up sometimes. A locked up fan clutch will sound like a jet engine going down the road.
Yep. It's making some excess noise now that you mention it. A dull roar, at speed.

Off to a use the credit card once again.

Any aftermarket suggestions? Is a fan clutch a fan clutch? One brand better? Any to stay away from?

Dodosmike

Last edited by Dodosmike; Jul 1, 2015 at 08:48 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:50 PM
  #6  
SB64's Avatar
SB64
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 793
Default

Originally Posted by Dodosmike
Yep. It's making some excess noise now that you mention it. A dull roar, at speed.

Off to a use the credit card once again.

Any aftermarket suggestions? Is a fan clutch a fan clutch? One brand better? Any to stay away from?

Dodosmike
I think now a days they all probably come from one distributer who sells to Advance, Oreillys, Pep boys etc. Not sure what you have in Canada but you should be fine .
R
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:51 PM
  #7  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default

Originally Posted by rvzio
They also can leak. They are filled with an oil like fluid and sealed when made. Once the seal leaks it needs replacing.

1st shot is an aftermarket, the 2nd is my correct restored fan clutch.
Far from original. Mine does have some black goop on it I never noticed before.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 08:51 PM
  #8  
gdh's Avatar
gdh
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 8,721
Likes: 108
From: Canada
Default

That sounds like your fan is hitting something. I have to put a shim in as if I really get on it the fan will bend back and hit (barely) the spreader bar that I just installed. Sounds like your clutch fan is leaking, maybe Cdn Tire catalogue has them or NAPA.

Last edited by gdh; Jul 1, 2015 at 08:55 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 09:55 PM
  #9  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default

Fan isn't hitting anything. I triple checked it. Maybe the clutch is making the noise?

This:
http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50g&ukey=12394

Or this:

http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50W&ukey=31816


Run the clutch or not?
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 10:00 PM
  #10  
LS4 PILOT's Avatar
LS4 PILOT
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 40
Default

They do

Should be no play in the shaft bearing ....this can cause other stuff to wear be fore the thing gets too ruff and you can't miss it .

It's temp sensitive to

I think the fluid can , dash pot oil or some such can leak out from worn out bearing which wollows out the seal or lip .

Anyway ....it happen to my 74 BB , Found a nos clutch about 25 years ago....been good since.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 10:37 PM
  #11  
commander_47's Avatar
commander_47
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 956
Likes: 86
From: McDonough Georgia
Default

Originally Posted by Dodosmike
Fan isn't hitting anything. I triple checked it. Maybe the clutch is making the noise?

This:
http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50g&ukey=12394

Or this:

http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50W&ukey=31816


Run the clutch or not?
I know you can get a great clutch a lot cheaper than those.

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/hda-2741
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:06 PM
  #12  
Jeff_Keryk's Avatar
Jeff_Keryk
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 38
From: Los Gatos CA
Default

I am running the Summit Hayden heavy duty thermo clutch (and steel fan) on my L36.
Or maybe it is the GM AC steel fan? I don't remember.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 12:44 AM
  #13  
kkEdlund's Avatar
kkEdlund
Instructor
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 115
Likes: 25
From: Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by dugsgms74
Yes, they do lock up sometimes. A locked up fan clutch will sound like a jet engine going down the road.
My fan clutch seized about a year ago, and wouldn't spin with the engine off. It also wouldn't freewheel at freeway speed even with the engine cool, wasting power. And it definitely sounded like a jet engine going down the road.

Swapped in dual electric fans from a Ford Focus for $40 from the junkyard. Relays also came from the junkyard, and I got a temp switch from NAPA for about $20. If you are smarter than me, you could probably get the right switch from a yard too. The swap was almost the same cost as a new fan clutch, and best of all it got that huge fan shroud out of the engine bay. I would highly recommend electric fans to anyone not concerned with show-car originality.

Last edited by kkEdlund; Jul 2, 2015 at 12:46 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 03:18 AM
  #14  
Danish Shark's Avatar
Danish Shark
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 878
Likes: 55
From: Deep South Denmark
Default

Originally Posted by Dodosmike
Fan isn't hitting anything. I triple checked it. Maybe the clutch is making the noise?

This:
http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50g&ukey=12394

Or this:

http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...50W&ukey=31816


Run the clutch or not?
Good luck with finding one that isn't too tight.
I've tried one from the Corvette vendors (believe it was Zip) and one from Summit (the "lowest performance" Hayden I could find).
It still sounds like a jet fighter, maybe now it's only a small single engine jet where it sounded like two engine jet before
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 08:03 AM
  #15  
commander_47's Avatar
commander_47
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 956
Likes: 86
From: McDonough Georgia
Default

Originally Posted by rvzio
They also can leak. They are filled with an oil like fluid and sealed when made. Once the seal leaks it needs replacing. You can have it restored based on what year and how original you are.
ZIO







1st shot is an aftermarket, the 2nd is my correct restored fan clutch.
That jet engine sound is actually a blue bird school bus sound.

It is caused by the 7 bladed fan above, not the clutch.

The clutch should be hard to turn with the engine off. The fan disengages at speed.

If it spins easy with engine off, it is broke.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 09:04 AM
  #16  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default

What would the effect be if I removed the clutch altogether?

The engine and fan running at 1:1 all the time. No slip. Sure Id lose a bit of HP.

anybody ever run the clutch eliminator with an adverse reaction?
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 10:13 AM
  #17  
kkEdlund's Avatar
kkEdlund
Instructor
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 115
Likes: 25
From: Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by Dodosmike
What would the effect be if I removed the clutch altogether?

The engine and fan running at 1:1 all the time. No slip. Sure Id lose a bit of HP.

anybody ever run the clutch eliminator with an adverse reaction?
My dad has a GMC Jimmy with a 350 and the clutch eliminator. The fan just bolts to the water pump, and it is always spinning full speed. It is kind of annoying on the highway and I'm sure it is no good for MPG. Its apparently worked like that for over 20 years, but I wouldn't want to run my car like that.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Do fan clutches ever go "bad"?

Old Jul 2, 2015 | 11:03 AM
  #18  
commander_47's Avatar
commander_47
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 956
Likes: 86
From: McDonough Georgia
Default

Originally Posted by Dodosmike
What would the effect be if I removed the clutch altogether?

The engine and fan running at 1:1 all the time. No slip. Sure Id lose a bit of HP.

anybody ever run the clutch eliminator with an adverse reaction?
Very bad idea.

The car actually will not run cooler at speed. The fan interferes with the air flow. It draws unnessar horsepower, makes the engine work harder and is a bad thing.

A good clutch is cheap insurance and a 6 blade fan wont sound like a school bus.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 11:18 AM
  #19  
Dodosmike's Avatar
Dodosmike
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,441
Likes: 240
From: Powassan ON
Default

Originally Posted by commander_47
Very bad idea.

The car actually will not run cooler at speed. The fan interferes with the air flow. It draws unnessar horsepower, makes the engine work harder and is a bad thing.

A good clutch is cheap insurance and a 6 blade fan wont sound like a school bus.
I was thinking the same thing re temps.

Found this (a la 1983 it looks like), a good "clutch fans for dummies" kind of video.
http://www.counterpersontraining.com...ibrary&rid=372

Found a BlueStreak thermal clutch for $120. locally. Currency exchange, shipping costs and import duties kill me from bringing stuff across the boarder, so Summitt and Jegs are not a viable option.

Thanks for all the input folks, greatly appreciated!

dodosmike
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2015 | 11:19 AM
  #20  
Jeff_Keryk's Avatar
Jeff_Keryk
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 38
From: Los Gatos CA
Default

If the clutch were not necessary, why would GM put them on so many cars? Same as with therrmostats... Some people eliminate them, but they are there for a reason.
Just my 2 cents. Run a good thermo fan clutch.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE