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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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I can only get 8 degrees of mechanical advance from my distributor no matter what springs are installed. What gives?
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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I can only get 8 degrees of mechanical advance from my distributor no matter what springs are installed. What gives?

How are you determining you're only getting 8 degrees of mechanical? HEI's have 20-25 degrees of mechanical advance so if yours is only getting 8 degrees something is preventing the weights from moving all the way. With the cap off grab the rotor and twist it fully in both directions. The rotor should pivot at least 20 degrees.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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Make sure the rotor isn't hitting the center plate. How freely can you turn the rotor by hand?
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Originally Posted by toobroketoretire
How are you determining you're only getting 8 degrees of mechanical? HEI's have 20-25 degrees of mechanical advance so if yours is only getting 8 degrees something is preventing the weights from moving all the way. With the cap off grab the rotor and twist it fully in both directions. The rotor should pivot at least 20 degrees.
Using a dial back timing light, vacuum advance disconnected, initial timing set to 12*BTDC, rev engine until mechanical advance stops, total timing stops at 20*.

Weights are free and I've changed springs. I can fully open weights by hand and still move advance mechanism a good amount. I'll try to post a video.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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I'm with Boot77 - there is a lot of play in those weights, and almost has to be more than 8 degrees worth - so my guess is that something must be restricting the movement when it's assembled.
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 08:45 AM
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sperkins, help me out here. Why is the vacuum advance can facing the wrong direction? Is that a Pontiac HEI distributor? Don't Pontiac engines run the distributor the opposite direction compared to Chevy's??

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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:00 AM
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It might be possible your springs are actually too weak and you are getting partial mechanical advance at idle which would be why you are only showing 8 degrees when you rev it up.
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadaGrant
It might be possible your springs are actually too weak and you are getting partial mechanical advance at idle which would be why you are only showing 8 degrees when you rev it up.
Good point forgot about that!
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There's something weird about that distributor. The vacuum advance can is pointing the wrong way, and it looks like the advance weights are operating on the wrong side of the eccentric on the shaft. I would need to compare the setup to a known good distributor. It looks like there is problem with the geometry of the weights and the shaft.
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You guys are sharp. I was wondering if anyone would notice that it's not a Chevy distributor.
It's actually an Oldsmobile and yes, like the Pontiac it does spin counterclockwise. I tinkered with it a little tonight, ground down the weights and got the mechanical advance up to 14 degrees. The initial is set to 22 and total at 36. Not the best, but it's 100% better.
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I was doing a little 'net research today about Pontiac and Olds HEI distributors. Apparently they mount the advance weights and center plate flipped upside-down relative to Chevy's, which agrees with what drwet was saying. I wonder if that is limiting the centrifugal advance in your case?

I would have expected with the reverse-direction distributor that the centrifugal advance mechanism would also operate in the opposite direction of a Chevy centrifugal advance. I'm not sure what I'm missing in that thought process.

My HEI is also around 20 initial to get to 36 total. I'm sure I'm getting some centrifugal advance at idle with the light springs I have. I'll get around to improving this some day, but for what I use my car, it's fine for now.

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what kind of engine is that? are you working on a corvette?
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