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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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I have had this corvette for a short time and never driven it yet. Here is what I found. The passenger side rear wheel had way too much play. You could move the wheel up and down and get more than four inches play at the end of the wheel.
I disconnected the half shaft and noticed something very unusual. The inner dust seal was not fully installed. The spindle nut was torqued to maybe 30 foot pounds. I removed the spindle and rotor as a unit. The inner bearing was not pressed into the hub.
here is a very unexpected result that I have found. The spindle was twisted at the splines. My question is how did this happen?
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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Too much torque for the amount of traction. Rebuild time!
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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if you post a good clear pic of the flange on the other end someone should be able to tell you if it was a GM or an offshore spindle
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 04:08 AM
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That's known as a "Chinese angle spline" and its a sure sign it is about to break in two. You need to put it on the driver's side and do about 100 good burnouts to straighten it.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 05:17 AM
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I dont know exactly what i need to replace this spindle. I have a special tool to check the endplay. However i need a recommendation for a new spindle and shims. Also what does a spindle knocker look like. Will a good hand sledge and a brass drift suffice to drive out special tool after i check for endplay? Thanks in advance
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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Obviously you need a new spindle and a few other parts. Setting up the rear wheel bearings is a highly specialized job. I have done it, and I recommend you send it to someone who does lots of these and has a reputation for knowing what they are doing. Van Steel comes to mind. And no, a sledge and a brass drift won't do it without doing serious damage.
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 04:53 AM
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The spindle is original. The rivets hold the spindle to the rotor. I do like the term "chinese twist" I got a good laugh on that one.

I will be removing the trailing arm and using a 30 ton press.
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I want to thank the Corvette Forum for all the knowledge and information that I received either through questions or gleaning from other posts. Again thanks.
I went up to Zip Corvette and purchased all the parts that I need to complete this job. They said that this is the first time that they had seen a twisted spindle and yes it is a GM spindle.
I will say that removing the trailing arm is not for the faint of heart. This is the first time that I have removed one and the only advice that I can give is if you never done one of these before then you may very well not know what you are getting into. This is why that I am thanking the Corvette Forum for information on how to do it and what to expect. I got a pretty good idea of what to expect just by reading up on posts here on CF.
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Old Aug 8, 2015 | 06:22 AM
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I'm wondering if the cotter pin was still in the castle nut when you removed it from the spindle. If it was I would expect that someone just set up the bearing assembly incorrectly. If it wasn't I would guess that the flange had backed way off of the spindle and that caused the twist. Luckily you caught it before the whole spindle let go. Good luck on the rebuild. Were you able to get all of the setup tools?
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Friend of mine that has a 78 twisted one too. He was doing a bit of a burnout and twisted it completely in two. As in broke.
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Friend of mine that has a 78 twisted one too. He was doing a bit of a burnout and twisted it completely in two. As in broke.
Some things you cannot make up.
Yes the cotter pin was installed on the castle nut. The dust cover was in place but not pressed into place. The prior owner tried to install the bearing assembly, got the outer bearing into place but couldn't install the inner bearing because of the twist.
I must have a guardian angle because I test drove the car after I got the engine in good running order. When I came back I noticed a sling pattern of grease and tire rub marks in the wheel well.
The bearing set up tool came with the car and I ordered the bushing install tool for $54 and some change from Zip Corvette.
The deeper I go into this corvette the more I find. Both output seals show a slight sling pattern leak at the rear differential. I might as well order those as well.
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Not sure who you talked to at the counter but I see those all the time. It is pretty common, that is what torque and traction can do.
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Originally Posted by usmilret
The bearing set up tool came with the car and I ordered the bushing install tool for $54 and some change from Zip Corvette.

Hmmm, I guess that was a clue for what you were in for. Glad you was able to get it fixed
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Originally Posted by edk136
Hmmm, I guess that was a clue for what you were in for. Glad you was able to get it fixed
Funny thing was I didn't know what the tool was when I got the car. I can see how easily one could get in over their head.

My first clue should have been "why all the grease in the wheel well?"






This is one of the brake pistons from the rear caliper, very corroded.

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Originally Posted by usmilret
Funny thing was I didn't know what the tool was when I got the car. I can see how easily one could get in over their head.

My first clue should have been "why all the grease in the wheel well?"


This picture shows all of the signs of someone who got carried away with one of these...



Good luck... GUSTO
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