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My 78 has the original L48 engine with the cylinder heads, Eldebrock Performer Intake side mount headers. If I install some Vortek heads to improve on the performance I'm aware I will have to change the intake manifold. Will the headers for the original heads bolt up to the Vortek heads? If not can someone suggest some heads that will bolt up to the headers? This is a weekend driver mostly, just looking for some better performance with better free flowing heads.
Unless you're getting the Vortec heads for free and having someone do a valve job,machining for better springs and rockers also for free,there are likely better aftermarket choices in either steel or aluminum...
My 78 has the original L48 engine with the cylinder heads, Eldebrock Performer Intake side mount headers. If I install some Vortek heads to improve on the performance I'm aware I will have to change the intake manifold. Will the headers for the original heads bolt up to the Vortek heads? If not can someone suggest some heads that will bolt up to the headers? This is a weekend driver mostly, just looking for some better performance with better free flowing heads.
I can't say for sure if these are the same, but I have a L31R crate engine in my 79 it came with Vortec heads. When I needed headers and could not get a straight answer from anybody on header fit, I bought the cheapest pair of Summit block hugger headers they had for a SBC. They bolted right up and have worked fine for over two years now. I do not know if all Vortec heads are the same, but calling summit might be a place to start.
Summit has a set of Vortec heads that have higher lift, and yes the exhaust will fit up. I did this and the heads are great. I was on a low budget so they were a great option. I think they were $339 each. I also put in a XE268 Comp cam and it woke it up big time. I did a thread on this. The Vortec heads are good and cheap - not the greatest but a good value.
I went with a Vortec heads via a kit from SD Parts it had bolts, gaskets, intake, rocker arms. I needed to buy push rods, valve covers and spark plugs. The L48 heads needed 400 to rework old smog heads.
The heads raise the carb so you need a drop base air cleaner and the exhausts ports are higher, not sure but .75" sounds right, it was not a problem
Looking back, I should have looked for cast iron heads with 64 cc chambers, like Brodie with .500 lift springs, Edlelbrock intake and made the engine bay look stock. But I was novice engine guy who wanted a kit.
I use the vortec heads, got them for $100 with the rockers, bolts and intake bolts. Heads were like new. Sidemount headers bolt right up, no problem. Really woke up the L48.
Look at the summit/dart large valve iron heads #152123 for $630. Have a set on my carbed C4, nice heads for the money.
How was your high rpm performance with those heads. Did they stop making power early on? Just wondering how the 165 cc intake runner performed. Ever get it dyno'd?
Thanks for all the replies, I am leaning towards the Dart 15213 heads so I can keep my Performer Intake. Now I need to match it to a cam that will give improvement from off idle to about 5000 rpm. Most of my driving is on weekends taking short trips to town and occasional trips less than 100 miles. 350 automatic 3:08 gears and stock converter. Any suggestions on the cam with these heads ?
The comp XE262 or similar Lunati Voodoo grind should work well.Many others as well.Keep the gross duration around 260 and you will be fine with 3.08 gears.
Between the heads,increase in compression,and a better cam it will give it some PUNCH.Don't forget to curve the distributor if you haven't already.
The comp XE262 or similar Lunati Voodoo grind should work well.Many others as well.Keep the gross duration around 260 and you will be fine with 3.08 gears.
Between the heads,increase in compression,and a better cam it will give it some PUNCH.Don't forget to curve the distributor if you haven't already.
voodoo 262 cam here with older dart iron eagle heads which perform similarly to the vortecs, they work fine with my 308 gears and auto trans.
I have 64cc heads with flat top pistons and a small .34-35 quench though.
Have a few here who have this cam and are pleased with it.
That is the very voodoo 262 cam I used... It had the best numbers by far than all the other cams that were similarly sized in the dyno 2000 program I used With all the rest of the info from my components punched in it stated an optimistic 396hp (at 5,500 rpm) and 414lbs of torque with 371lbs being available at 2,000 rpm...
it also brought my dynamic compression down enough to where I can run 91 octane gas with the iron heads.
I am using 1.6 rockers and an rpm clone intake to squeeze out as much possible power as possible on a budget.
BTW, I know those numbers are higher than what it likely really puts out. For some reason the flow numbers from the heads just workedwell with the cam I chose and the software showed a nice bump in power of the others I tried in the simulation including the comp lineup.
Last edited by augiedoggy; Aug 15, 2015 at 04:50 PM.
I rarely go over 5000 rpm but with the Isky 228-228 solid cam on a 108 lsa I have awsome low and midrange power. Using a Zz4 intake with a 600 Edel. No dyno testing but the 152123 heads are certainly a big improvement over the crappy 624 heads they replaced !! For $630 they are a real bargain in my opinion.
I have Vortec heads on my GM Performance 350 HO and it performs quite well. If you find a good deal on some Vortec heads (junk yards usually have them) and you're looking for a Vortec intake, let me know. I'm ready to sell my GM low-profile Vortec intake in the C3 Parts section. It fits under a stock '80 hood with a 3" filter on a drop base.