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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Default Flywheel & Cluth Balance.

Is it possible to check the balance of a flywheel / clutch assembly when removed from the engine, or does it need to be balanced with the motor.

Engine is a ZZ383 which requires a externally balanced flywheel.

If it can then I assume they would need to know what engine it will be used on and make sure it is weighted properly (off balance) for the given engine.

I have a vibration @ ~ 4200 RPM I don't like and I am thinking its the clutch / flywheel assembly. It happens in all gears and with the clutch pressed all in.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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I have the same issue . I tried a lot of stuff just waiting to stumble across it? If you find it please post
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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I tried changing out the clutch, u joints twice, had main driveshaft rebalanced, new bushing that holds reared nose up and changed one wheel shaft still have it . Also added some plates by the sombrero bushing above the rear end
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:40 PM
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I didn't see much help, but I have now removed the flywheel / clutch / pressure plate. Off to have someone check the balance.

I am not sure what to tell them, but I am also taking the original flex plate I used with the TH350 which didn't seem to have the problem.

Help!!!
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:22 PM
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If you have the clutch pushed in all the way and it still does it, I don't think your clutch assembly is the issue, because it is not transferring power at that point. If it is happening at 4200 rpm when you are sitting still, it probably has to do with the engine balance.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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If you have the clutch pushed in all the way and it still does it, I don't think your clutch assembly is the issue, because it is not transferring power at that point. If it is happening at 4200 rpm when you are sitting still, it probably has to do with the engine balance.
The pressure plate and flywheel still rotate with engine RPM. I didn't have a problem when it ran with the TH350, I dont think its engine related ?
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Yeah, after I reread your question, i realized they still rotated
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Which clutch are you running?

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Didn't forget the pilot bushing? Not likely, but........
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How about your harmonic balancer? Have you been able to rule it out?

Is it neutrally balanced or is it also weighted as most externally balanced engines are? Is it possible it has moved on the ring?

Good luck... GUSTO
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Originally Posted by cagotzmann
I didn't see much help, but I have now removed the flywheel / clutch / pressure plate. Off to have someone check the balance.

I am not sure what to tell them, but I am also taking the original flex plate I used with the TH350 which didn't seem to have the problem.

Help!!!
They should be able to match the balance from the flex plate to the flywheel, though it should be the same.

The clutch and pressure plate will need to be done by themselves with a neutral balance.
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Which clutch are you running?
ACT GM6-HDSS kit.
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
How about your harmonic balancer? Have you been able to rule it out?

Is it neutrally balanced or is it also weighted as most externally balanced engines are? Is it possible it has moved on the ring?

Good luck... GUSTO
Worked fine when I had a TH350 behind the engine.

I am having the flywheel / Clutch checked for balance now compared to the flex plate when I had the TH350
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
How about your harmonic balancer? Have you been able to rule it out?

Is it neutrally balanced or is it also weighted as most externally balanced engines are? Is it possible it has moved on the ring?

Good luck... GUSTO
At least rule it out.
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Originally Posted by Kubs
At least rule it out.
Not sure how I would check. The timing marks as first setup still read the same.

14 TDC when first setup, still read @ 14. Is there another way to check ?
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Originally Posted by cagotzmann
Not sure how I would check. The timing marks as first setup still read the same.

14 TDC when first setup, still read @ 14. Is there another way to check ?
Not unless it was marked prior. I had one slip and showed like 45 degrees advanced. I believe the 0 degree mark lines up with the keyway typically but I cannot speak for all brand balancers.
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If the problem started when the automatic was replaced with the manual, I think its unlikely that the problem is related to the harmonic balancer. When I did this with my 383 I sent the flywheel and the ring gear/flexplate from the automatic to the balance shop with instructions to balance the flywheel the same as the ring gear. Worked for me. The flywheel I used was a neutral balance flywheel which I installed with a weight suitable for a 400. The whole arrangement was then balanced to make it identical to the ring gear.
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