Trick Power Steering Pump.
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Trick Power Steering Pump.
I have to replace my power steering pump about every 2 years but this time I wanted something more trick, a better highperformance pump. I went to the local Canscar race shop and saw a small high performance pump nascar type pump that had a remote resovoir. It puts out 3 gallons per minute at a pressure of 1160 psi. It was super compact, light weight, safe to 9000 rpm and about $175 american plus mounting brackert plus remote resovoir. I bought the pump and the mounting bracket but the tank would not work for my application so I fabricated one .
I started with a air conditioning aluminum canister and a rad cap and filler neck. The large outlet is the in for the power steering pump and the 2 small #6 fittings are return lines for the power steering control valve and the hydraboost power brakes. This holds alot more fluid then a stock resovoir and hopefully cools it better with it's remote location.
I believe Monty runs a trick pump like this with the romote resovoir.
Anyway these are 2 pictures of my homemade tank. It bolt to the fender and the filler neck sticks out for filling. Most of the tank is hidden under the lip.
I started with a air conditioning aluminum canister and a rad cap and filler neck. The large outlet is the in for the power steering pump and the 2 small #6 fittings are return lines for the power steering control valve and the hydraboost power brakes. This holds alot more fluid then a stock resovoir and hopefully cools it better with it's remote location.
I believe Monty runs a trick pump like this with the romote resovoir.
Anyway these are 2 pictures of my homemade tank. It bolt to the fender and the filler neck sticks out for filling. Most of the tank is hidden under the lip.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
norval
Where are all the lumps and leaks like on my exhaust pipes? Stupid Tuffy muffler! :mad 'Quality exhaust work? Now that's a Tuffy!'
Looks very nice, thanks for the info.
Where are all the lumps and leaks like on my exhaust pipes? Stupid Tuffy muffler! :mad 'Quality exhaust work? Now that's a Tuffy!'
Looks very nice, thanks for the info.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
Very :cool: Norval. I'd love to see a pic of the pump too if you could post one ;) . How does the remote resovoir work since I know that the stock is sensitive to how much fluid you put into it? TIA :)
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
427V8. If I knew how to build a pump I would build one but that is beyond me :)
Fevre. I don't have any bumps or leaks on my exhuast system. I tig weld all the stainless joints and make a smooth leak free job of it. It just cost me about $1700 to do a good exhaust system but at least I have the tig welder for future use, like making a remote resovoir. I see lots of poor exhaust systems at cruise nights. I cut a splice stainless elbows together and don't try anymore for a one piece mandral bent system. I have access to a state of the art mandral bender but it has trouble with 90 degree 304 stainless bends. Mild steel is no problem but at 65 degrees the 3 inch stainless starts to wrinkle. I just buy elblows and cut and splice.
SmokedTires
As far as fluid level I don't know how to it affects it. I was just going to fill the tank so there was always a good supply to the pump.
I will post a picture of the pump and the mounting braket tomorrow.
Fevre. I don't have any bumps or leaks on my exhuast system. I tig weld all the stainless joints and make a smooth leak free job of it. It just cost me about $1700 to do a good exhaust system but at least I have the tig welder for future use, like making a remote resovoir. I see lots of poor exhaust systems at cruise nights. I cut a splice stainless elbows together and don't try anymore for a one piece mandral bent system. I have access to a state of the art mandral bender but it has trouble with 90 degree 304 stainless bends. Mild steel is no problem but at 65 degrees the 3 inch stainless starts to wrinkle. I just buy elblows and cut and splice.
SmokedTires
As far as fluid level I don't know how to it affects it. I was just going to fill the tank so there was always a good supply to the pump.
I will post a picture of the pump and the mounting braket tomorrow.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (Twinnie)
Twinnie. That is the pump. It is light weight, puts out 1160 psi and the mounting bracket is about $45.00 CDN. It comes in blue, red and something else and bolts directly to the block or heads depending on which one you order.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
Can't use the head mount, must use block mount because of turbochargers. I still need the bracket, moroso sells the bracket as does sweet. Haven't seen a KRC bracket. These pumps can be had in cast iron and the lightweight alu version.
I needed this pump because I couldn't use the stock one, turbo in the way (couldn't fill it)
I like the fact that yours has 2 returns, one for PS valve & 1 for HB
Here's the KRC kit, bracket & tank included (I don't like the looks of that tank though)
Marck
I needed this pump because I couldn't use the stock one, turbo in the way (couldn't fill it)
I like the fact that yours has 2 returns, one for PS valve & 1 for HB
Here's the KRC kit, bracket & tank included (I don't like the looks of that tank though)
Marck
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
Good looking TIG welds Norval, I wish I was that good at aluminum. I'm pretty good with stainless, but haven't had enough practice with aluminum yet. I bought my pump, block mount bracket, and reservoir from CV Products.
I don't feel so bad now about over-engineering everything and being a sucker for trick looking NASCAR-type components...looks like there are many others with the same disease :).
[Modified by Monty, 2:14 PM 9/3/2002]
I don't feel so bad now about over-engineering everything and being a sucker for trick looking NASCAR-type components...looks like there are many others with the same disease :).
[Modified by Monty, 2:14 PM 9/3/2002]
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (Monty)
Monty. 4043 in the preferred rod but it can not be anodized. The welds turn black. 5356 is second choice and it accepts anodizing , so depending on your finish , decides which rod to use.
As for 6061 I don't know. I started with a airconditioning tank that was welded so I assumed it was ok to weld. I machined the weld off one end and the tank came apart. Since the factory could weld it I assumed it would be ok for me.
As for 6061 I don't know. I started with a airconditioning tank that was welded so I assumed it was ok to weld. I machined the weld off one end and the tank came apart. Since the factory could weld it I assumed it would be ok for me.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
As I mentioned, I still have alot to learn when it comes to TIG welding aluminum, I did not know that about anodizing. I have always used 4043 myslef, but someone recently told me that 5356 produced a stronger weold, while 4043 had better corrosion resistance.
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Re: Trick Power Steering Pump. (norvalwilhelm)
Very very nice, Norval. I can't wait to be thinking of pretty parts like that.
Way to go!!
I sure wish I still got up to Waterloo like I used to - love to check your
vette in person. Dinner on the top of the CN - weekends at the falls.
Alas - those days are over for now. :(
:seeya
Way to go!!
I sure wish I still got up to Waterloo like I used to - love to check your
vette in person. Dinner on the top of the CN - weekends at the falls.
Alas - those days are over for now. :(
:seeya
