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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Hello all- looking for some advice on a 79 L82 performance mod. Thinking about a 383 440 HP matched to a rebuilt stock transmission with a 2,500 stall converter...does anyone have any opinions as to whether the stock rear suspension and differential can handle that match, or would I need to be thinking about swapping out suspension and diff, too? Would I need body stiffeners? Not looking to run quarter miles, just wondering if I do this if the car will eat itself, that...and safety.

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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 01:49 AM
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Hello all- looking for some advice on a 79 L82 performance mod. Thinking about a 383 440 HP matched to a rebuilt stock transmission with a 2,500 stall converter...does anyone have any opinions as to whether the stock rear suspension and differential can handle that match, or would I need to be thinking about swapping out suspension and diff, too? Would I need body stiffeners? Not looking to run quarter miles, just wondering if I do this if the car will eat itself, that...and safety.

What else do I need to be thinking about before doing this?
The diff can until you get hard launches and sticky tires. Most who run sticky either beef up to a super 10 or a 12 bolt, both are expensive or they do to a solid rear axle and a 4 link, there are several members that run the stock rear end with 500-550 horse, but it's the shock load that kills the rear diff. There is a member hear on the forum with the profile name trackdog who specializes in build up the irs.

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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 05:47 AM
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The Eaton differential will be fine at that power, unless you put on some very sticky tires and beat on it ..
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Thanks guys- I'm not looking to put sticky tires on or try to run the car hard in speed trials. What I'm thinking is respectable power, but done right. With 440 hp, should I be thinking about body stiffening? New universal joints?
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Thanks guys- I'm not looking to put sticky tires on or try to run the car hard in speed trials. What I'm thinking is respectable power, but done right. With 440 hp, should I be thinking about body stiffening? New universal joints?
It never hurts to replace the you joints. I don't think at 450 horse you'll need to gusset the frame to make it more rigid.
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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As to the body (or more accurately put, the chassis) question, while you shouldn't need to do any radical modification I would highly recommend installing a 3-point solid diff locating kit to better stabilize/secure the diff mounting points. These kits - readily available from many a C3 specialty vendor - are far superior to "traction bars" commonly marketed for our cars (and which IMCO aren't all that well thought out in regards to function in C2/C3 IRS applications). My $.02





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As to the body (or more accurately put, the chassis) question, while you shouldn't need to do any radical modification I would highly recommend installing a 3-point solid diff locating kit to better stabilize/secure the diff mounting points. These kits - readily available from many a C3 specialty vendor - are far superior to "traction bars" commonly marketed for our cars (and which IMCO aren't all that well thought out in regards to function in C2/C3 IRS applications). My $.02





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I hadn't heard of that. You got a part number skunk?
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I hadn't heard of that. You got a part number skunk?
Sorry, haven't looked them up in ages (got mine from Dick Guldstrand, RIP), but have seen them listed in a number of C2/C3 vendor's catalogs over the years, including current and former supporting ones. The best kits include a solid bushing for the pinion mount, not just the two disks that support/locate the cross-member cushions. Reduces compliance that can compromise dynamic rear alignment during heavy cornering, as well as induce wheel hop. Those "traction" bars to which I was referring are IMCO nothing more than a warmed over design best left to live axle applications.







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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Sorry, haven't looked them up in ages (got mine from Dick Guldstrand, RIP), but have seen them listed in a number of C2/C3 vendor's catalogs over the years, including current and former supporting ones. The best kits include a solid bushing for the pinion mount, not just the two disks that support/locate the cross-member cushions. Reduces compliance that can compromise dynamic rear alignment during heavy cornering, as well as induce wheel hop. Those "traction" bars to which I was referring are IMCO nothing more than a warmed over design best left to live axle applications.







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Thank you. I wonder if thats the same one that drag vette sells.
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Thank you. I wonder if thats the same one that drag vette sells.
Sort of, but theirs would appear to omit the pinion bit that came with DG's kits.
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I was told the Southside machine lift bar was pretty good, but you think just solid mounting is better? Maybe they were too lazy to solid mount.
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Traditional "traction bars" function by limiting spring mounted live axle rotation/oscillation, with the side benefit of reducing pinion angle variations. The C2/C3 IRS setup is a vastly different animal, in which compliance between relatively fixed components (specifically both the diff mount x-member and pinion mount bracket and the frame) is the primary issue. Bottom line IMCO: For our cars a traction bar type device doesn't solve for x-member mount compliance and is an unnecessarily cumbersome way to address the pinion mount. Hope that helps.
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