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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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Have 1970 that has a 502 dropped into it....engine runs great but cannot shift to 1st gear easily and reverse not without grinding grears. Picked car up from shop drove home 50 miles and have shifting problems. Trailer back to garage and today told that shifter difficulty is to be expected with all corvettes from this Era. Can't believe a speed shop that advertises engine/tyranny rebuilds as well as race cars can make such a statement. Had no shift problems with previous engine and had tyranny dropped when purchased and given healthy report. When mating a new engine to the transmission, is there any step that may cause this particular problem.
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The clutch is not fully releasing. The problem has nothing to do with "Corvettes from this era." It has to do with installation/adjustment errors caused by the shop. This is simply a matter of not paying attention to detail. Sloppy workmanship, inadequate skills for the task and dodging ownership of the problem are probably not anywhere on this shop's value statement, but their customers will surely attribute those qualities to the shop if they don't make this right.
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The clutch is not fully releasing. The problem has nothing to do with "Corvettes from this era." It has to do with installation/adjustment errors caused by the shop. This is simply a matter of not paying attention to detail. Sloppy workmanship, inadequate skills for the task and dodging ownership of the problem are probably not anywhere on this shop's value statement, but their customers will surely attribute those qualities to the shop if they don't make this right.
Shop got paid now they don't give a **** about resolving post install issues.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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It could also be that the bellhousing is not correctly aligned and is causing a side load on the input shaft. Bet they never even checked.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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Did you pay by credit card, if so call your CC company.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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Since we're piling on the shop, could be the throwout bearing wasn't put in correctly as well.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CA-Legal-Vette
Since we're piling on the shop, could be the throwout bearing wasn't put in correctly as well.


Not interested in bashing the shop. Reason for thread is to provide ideas that may correct this problem so that they may be presented to the shop for resolution. Any suggestions or ideas are appreciated.


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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 03:25 PM
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Need a little more info. Is it the same bellhousing, pivot ball, flywheel, clutch/throw out bearing as before. Did they install a true bronze, non magnetic pilot bushing? What has changed since the problem started. With the new engine, I would definitely check the bellhousing for cocentricity and parellelism. Since it is a 502, I am assuming you are using the bracket with a pivot ball since I don't think any 502's have the block pivot ball boss.

Beyond that, check to make sure the fork is angled forward when throw out bearing is being pushed against the pressure plate. If you can, I would install the clutch and bellhousing, and hook up all the clutch linkage. Use a dummy input shaft and have someone press the clutch pedal and see if you can rotate the input shaft. It is nonsense that you should accept poor shifting as your case is just one of poor clutch release. I had to work the geometry to get mine to shift right, but once fixed it is perfect, and mine was all aftermarket parts.

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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
Need a little more info. Is it the same bellhousing, pivot ball, flywheel, clutch/throw out bearing as before. Did they install a true bronze, non magnetic pilot bushing? What has changed since the problem started. With the new engine, I would definitely check the bellhousing for cocentricity and parellelism. Since it is a 502, I am assuming you are using the bracket with a pivot ball since I don't think any 502's have the block pivot ball boss.

Beyond that, check to make sure the fork is angled forward when throw out bearing is being pushed against the pressure plate. If you can, I would install the clutch and bellhousing, and hook up all the clutch linkage. Use a dummy input shaft and have someone press the clutch pedal and see if you can rotate the input shaft. It is nonsense that you should accept poor shifting as your case is just one of poor clutch release. I had to work the geometry to get mine to shift right, but once fixed it is perfect, and mine was all aftermarket parts.
Original transmission except new pilot when originally bought and inspected...only thing different was the 502 install....I am unaware of the fork as I am not a mechanic. The purpose of this thread is to provide some insight for the shop so that they may troubleshoot the problem. The car shifted correctly with not problems prior to the install. There is something that the shop has done with this project that is creating this problem. Hopefully your suggestion will provide some insight. Thanks
Steve
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