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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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My friend says your carb is too big.

Why the 850 Demon? Dont they have a 750 Demon or a 650 double pumper? :confused:

Just trying to find more info on big blocks and carb selection ! :cheers:
I don't think bob will have any problems with an 850cfm. This could be a slight problem IF the engine never sees the other side of 5000 rpm AND he had a 3.08 with 4 speed. HOWEVER, Bob has a ROD 6 speed. He can pull stumps with that tranny! That engine is a real sleeper in appearance. Painted all up like a mild 390hp BB. There will be more than a few surprised looks on the faces of unsuspecting street rodders! :yesnod: But, then again, Bob is above all that childish one upmanship. He is secure in the knowledge that those with faster or quicker cars in his town can be counted on one hand with a few fingers left over. :lol:

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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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I second the praises Chuck laveshes on the ROD. I have one and it is always in the power band. With proper gear selection it is worth at least 1/2 second over a m20 or 22 and 3.73 gears, plus you can run at 80 mph and 2300 rpms.

I raced a high 11 second 502 camaro the other day and he swore I had the Fogger kicked in the way I walked away from him, I did not.

I also agree the 850 is not too big.

What rear end gear ratio are you using Bob, and what 1st gear ratio in your tranny. :chevy
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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Damn Bob...You should have told me to buy stock in the red paint company :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Are you going to have an A.C.E. get together for the install???

We want to help :cheers: Drink your beer... :D
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:25 AM
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I see an ACE get togeather soon for the motor swap.

Don't worry they do good work. It's how mine got swapped.
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Looks good. Looks like you dropped a few bucks on the same brackets I did.:D
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Very cool! I bet it will have a nASty sound. :cool: :cool:
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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flood- I went with that size carb (850 vac sec) based on what they were running on the motor from the Chevy High Performance article that I used to build it. I think it will work out allright. I do wonder how a double pumper would run on this motor...

Chuck H- Thanks for the good words!!! I do have a 3.08 rear with a 2.77 first gear, thus yielding a 8.53 to one first gear. I chose this setup since I feared that I would spin the tires all the time in first. However, after seeing your setup, and listening to your car on your website, I am considering changing to 3.55 gears........
You have a 3.27 first with a 3.08 rear, right?? Congrats on the dyno run BTW!!

69 N.O.X RATT- See above for gear ratios. What ratios did you choose in your six speed?? Like I was telling Chuck, I may go with 3.55's. I will have to see how this motor runs. What do you think?

DesertDawg- HAHAHAHA!! It's Chevy orange but seems to have a reddish tint to it. What is an A.C.E???? If you guys want to come by when I am doing the swap, let me know!! What beer(s) do you drink??

BSeery- Yes, sir! If you want to stop over during the swap and hang out with cold beers, let me know. What do you want to drink???? I will prepare ourselves early! I should be starting the swap sometime in October. I am still buying parts here and there. I am down in Power Ranch.
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Bob,

You might want to check with Richmond. Changing the 1st gear to a 3.27 might be easier and cheaper than changing your rear end. Especially if everything is already out of the car.

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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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It looks very nice! :cheers:
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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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DesertDawg- HAHAHAHA!! It's Chevy orange but seems to have a reddish tint to it. What is an A.C.E???? If you guys want to come by when I am doing the swap, let me know!! What beer(s) do you drink??

BSeery- Yes, sir! If you want to stop over during the swap and hang out with cold beers, let me know. What do you want to drink???? I will prepare ourselves early! I should be starting the swap sometime in October. I am still buying parts here and there. I am down in Power Ranch.
ACE -- Arizona Corvette Enthusiasts. We are a group of forum users that get together every so often for some fun and wrenching. Corvette Saturday is when we all get together to work on cars and drink some beverages of choice.
Here is a few pictures of the last saturday that they all get together. From this you should be able to tell how mechanically inclined they are.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=393604
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=393617
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=393601
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Here was the last time we got together just for beverages:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...881053#3881053

They helped me install my motor -- and all worked out ok there.

My ZZ4 swap project
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 03:13 AM
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And we even have an avatar


just let one of us know when you are going to start on it, and we will come over and see if we can break anything expensive.... :lol: :lol:
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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cool looking engine.. You just have to love those rats!!!
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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MassVette- Thank you! And, no problem on the Richmond six info. My upcoming webpage will illustrate what I did to get it in there (as an shadetree mechanic in my garage). I have had an L-88 hood on the car now for 3 years and need to make it functional with this BB!!!! I can't wait to drive it!! I do plan on contacting you when I roll back to Massachusetts. My cousin lives in Plymouth, and I still know some people in Marshfield, Holbrook, Duxbury, etc. I want to eat some fried clams/lobster, etc, etc. I miss the food there. Do you live off of Exit 13 (Rt. 53)??
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I live 2 mi. off of Rt.53. Email me when you meander back here..........
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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Fastguy- Yeah, those brackets were expensive. I didn't expect this swap to cost so damn much. It is ALWAYS more than you think!

Racesmith- Thanks! I am getting anxious to get that mouse out and the Rat in!!


Chuck- Excellent Point. I will see if that is a viable way to go.... I guess I should have done even more research than I did when I ordered it. I went with the ratios I have based on this article: (You may have seen it already)
http://www.idavette.net/hib/bbfh16.htm

Thanks!- Tom/99


BSeery- Great shots on those pages! Looks like there are still good and friendly people out there willing to help one another. I am one of those also! I think I could use the help on startup and making sure everything is right before cranking over the motor (timing/carb adj). I want to break in that cam correctly.... I don't mind doing the work of getting the engine in there, etc, etc. I will let you guys know....as I progress...

Desertdawg- "just let one of us know when you are going to start on it, and we will come over and see if we can break anything expensive...."
HAHAHA!! No problem!!!! Do you come up to Phoenix often??

GrandsportC3- Thanks!! Hey- why are you selling that '80?? Do you have a C5 in mind???!!!!

MassVette- You can count on my emailing you when I get back there! I can't wait for the seafood! (I'm buying!!)


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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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I've got a new set of chrome header bolts that would look good on that. Want them?
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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Hi shaggy,

Thank you for the offer on the Chrome header bolts. But, I am going to pass on them since I am not a big fan of chrome (except for my fuel pump!!) on this motor. Put them up in the for sale section....

Thanks again,

Bob :cheers:
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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Sharp looking engine... :smash: What kind of numbers does it pull/ should it pull...


P.S.
But... NICE TOOL BOX! :cheers:
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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ZD75blue-

Thanks for the compliments!! I do like Craftsman tools since there's a Sears in most malls...

I followed the engine buildup from Chevy High Performance from the March 2000 issue. They got 480hp/ 500lbs. of torque out of it... Add to it the pocket ported heads, high comp. ratio, and roller rockers, I hope it will make the 480 or even a little better.

I try not to exaggerate hp like most people do. The dyno doesn't lie!! It will be a BIG improvement over my L-48 mouse (195hp) and that's all I really expect out of it. It should be somewhat streetable as well.

I won't be the fastest out there. If I wanted that and had the $$$, I would buy one of those Hennessy Motorsport Vipers putting out 800hp and be street legal....

Bob :cheers:
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 12:02 AM
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WOW!! Great pics and you helped me figure out what bracket I am missing on the alternator.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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WOW!! Great pics and you helped me figure out what bracket I am missing on the alternator.
Thank you! And, glad to be of service.....

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