Very hard start, if not impossible
Last edited by theandies; Aug 30, 2017 at 04:46 PM.
This is the worth kind of problem, its here than its not, imagine if I take my car to a garage to tell them it doesn't start, their first question would be: if it doesn't start how did you drive here and their second would be we didn't find any problem, starts every time (I know the first time it happened I took it to a local garage (first V8 he saw) and the car started every time, well until I drove it home and then it didn't want to again).
I'll let you know tomorrow the verdict.
Thanks




I would never find the real source of the problem. I'd be in there ripping everything-- EVERYTHING! apart, checking all the parts and going through the whole system with a currycomb. Then put it all back together and dare it to happen again.
I was working on an older ford (I know- family member) that had an intermittent no start. Fooled with that thing for 2 weeks until it finally showed me the problem. New crank sensor and done.
So the latest news. My car once again started at the first turn of the key (can't explain that one). The only thong I did since it let me down last week is:
1. Once started, I reset the timing to 8° before TDC as written in the tune up book (for a 1979 L82),
2. When it didn't want to start (again) I tapped with a (very small hammer) the metal part of the distributor (on the side where the vacuum advance is located).
Well since then it starts no problem. I have a few questions about the timing.
For timing I disconnect the vacuum advance and plug it, but then the engine lost rpm (it goes from 900 rpm at idle down to about 600 rpm), question is this normal for the idling speed to go down with the vacuum advance disconnected.
I set (at 600 rpm) the timing at 8° before TDC (as asked in my maintenance book). The car once everything connected runs OK but could be better.
Today I checked the timing at idle speed (900 rpm) and it is at 12° before TDC. Question should I put it back to 8° at 900 rpm or keep there.
I have read on this forum and on many other website that what is important is not initial timing but total timing and for my engine (350) it should be set to 36° before TDC at 2500 rpm. Question, if I do that wouldn't my initial timing go up (already at 12° at 900 rpm) and damage the engine or cause backfire.
Right now the engine starts, is there a risk that it doesn't if I change the timing again.
Last question, could tapping on the side of the distributor be the reason for the engine starting at first try or do you think it is only a coincidence.
Thank you




So the latest news. My car once again started at the first turn of the key (can't explain that one). The only thong I did since it let me down last week is:
1. Once started, I reset the timing to 8° before TDC as written in the tune up book (for a 1979 L82),
2. When it didn't want to start (again) I tapped with a (very small hammer) the metal part of the distributor (on the side where the vacuum advance is located).
Well since then it starts no problem. I have a few questions about the timing.
For timing I disconnect the vacuum advance and plug it, but then the engine lost rpm (it goes from 900 rpm at idle down to about 600 rpm), question is this normal for the idling speed to go down with the vacuum advance disconnected.This is correct
I set (at 600 rpm) the timing at 8° before TDC (as asked in my maintenance book). The car once everything connected runs OK but could be better.
Today I checked the timing at idle speed (900 rpm) and it is at 12° before TDC. Question should I put it back to 8° at 900 rpm or keep there.Leave it at the 12* with the vacuum connected
I have read on this forum and on many other website that what is important is not initial timing but total timing and for my engine (350) it should be set to 36° before TDC at 2500 rpm. Question, if I do that wouldn't my initial timing go up (already at 12° at 900 rpm) and damage the engine or cause backfire.I rarely use the initial timing setting for anything other than a reference. I hit the 36*@3000 and let it go.
Right now the engine starts, is there a risk that it doesn't if I change the timing again.
Last question, could tapping on the side of the distributor be the reason for the engine starting at first try or do you think it is only a coincidence.
Thank you
I'm sure this has been asked and answered, but you have made sure the mechanical advance weights under the distributor rotor are free?
Last edited by TimAT; Aug 31, 2017 at 04:15 PM.
You should set your timing with it disconnected. Total advance should be checked with it disconnected. Vac advance is for part throttle use like at highway speed cruising to aid in gas mileage and to keep the engine temp down a bit. If your total all in advance is 36 the vac can should only give you 10 to 12 more degree. Anything more than that and when you accelerate from an off idle throttle position you're probably going to get some pinging.
What kind of timing light do you have. Is it the adjustable one with the dial on the back? It's much easier to use one of those for all timing conditions as most SBC timing marks don't go much above 20 degree on the balancer.
Since your 'no-start' condition has gone away it's hard to pinpoint the cause. I know your feeling, it will start for months but the minute you start forgetting about it it will come back. Intermittent problems are the worst.
My timing light is not of the dial in type but I think I should buy one because my balancer only has the initial mark (white line) so to advance to 36° is not possible without adding some graduation.
As for the 12° I have showing right now at 900 rpm it is with the vac advance not connected (when connected the timing mark is too unstable to make a good reading).
Well this evening I took my vett for a ride and it worked great, from starting all the way thru the ride and back. I just hope it keeps going, I have a meeting of corvette in 3 weeks (about 40 corvettes expected, from C1 to C7).
I might (I'm sure) will need your help on some other (less important) problems I have with my vett.
Again thanks for everything
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Well today the car didn't want to start (4 days without a problem), but at least it gave me the opportunity to use the test lamp connected to the tach connector. Here is what happened:
1. when I crank the engine the test lamp is on and the light doesn't flash,
2. Like I did before I used a hammer to tap on the metallic part of the distributor (below the cap),
3. I cranked the engine and the light flashed very rapidly,
4. I had to remove the test lamp (probably draining too much current) and the engine started no problem.
Now I know for sure the problem comes from the distributor, but where. Is it the module or the pick up coil because I don't see much more down there and I know the weights work fine.
Can I ask for your help again because now I'm out of ideas.
Thanks




And while you're in there, check the spring button under the coil for corrosion. I think one of those two is the problem.










