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Old 09-24-2017, 04:11 AM
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Engine and Transmission are on the floor of the garage and I am attaching them, what is the best way to stop the engine turning over when bolting the torque converter to the flexplate. Its a 1970, 454 with standard auto transmission and a 3 bolt torque convertor.?

Your tips would be welcome.

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Engine and Transmission are on the floor of the garage and I am attaching them, what is the best way to stop the engine turning over when bolting the torque converter to the flexplate. Its a 1970, 454 with standard auto transmission and a 3 bolt torque convertor.?

Your tips would be welcome.

Regards
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Hold the head of the bolt while you tighten the nut. It would be a lot easier to torque the nuts after the assembly gets installed and you can work under it.
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Originally Posted by 71VetteLover
Hold the head of the bolt while you tighten the nut. It would be a lot easier to torque the nuts after the assembly gets installed and you can work under it.
There is only a nut as the torque convertor is threaded, the three bolts go through the flex plate and into these threads.

A good idea to wait until its back in the car and assebled as more to pull against, but just have to remember to do it and hence preferably want to do it now.

Kind regards
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Some suggestions: Socket and breaker bar on balancer bolt? Wedge a screwdriver in the flywheel teeth through the starter opening? Hang a tag to remind you to tighten the bolts?
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Originally Posted by PBCloud
Engine and Transmission are on the floor of the garage and I am attaching them, what is the best way to stop the engine turning over when bolting the torque converter to the flexplate. Its a 1970, 454 with standard auto transmission and a 3 bolt torque convertor.?

Your tips would be welcome.

Regards
Paul
Click a large pair of vice grips onto the flex plate (larger jaws have a gap at the back of the jaw and will clear your flex plate teeth). If you place them near a dowel, or screw a bolt into the back of the block (to act as a stop) you can torque your flex plate bolts and it will be enough to hold things from turning. Don't forget some BLUE Loctite on those bolts.

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If the harmonic pulley is not mounted yet, you can take one of those pulley bolts to the hardware store for a match in dia and TPI. But, ask for grade 8 and longer bolts. Then you can wedge a pry bar between those bolts for leverage, torqueing the flexplate.

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Get one of these
And one of these is ???
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Heck, just pour some water into the intake manifold. That'll do it.
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Originally Posted by PBCloud
There is only a nut as the torque convertor is threaded, the three bolts go through the flex plate and into these threads.

A good idea to wait until its back in the car and assembled as more to pull against, but just have to remember to do it and hence preferably want to do it now.

Kind regards
Paul

My TH350 uses 3/8" bolts AND nuts so what kind of a transmission do you have? A TH700R4?
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They're called flywheel turners (I had to look it up).
See below:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wmr-w80510

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ibanner=SREPD4

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And one of these is ???

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The flywheel turning tool is the correct and easy way. You can also wedge a wadded up red rag or a piece of wood etc between flyheel teeth and bellhousing. As you turn it..it will catch and hold it. You'll need to back it up a little to get it out so you can turn to next bolt. Make sure to get all bolts stated before you tighten any of them.

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Originally Posted by 71VetteLover
Heck, just pour some water into the intake manifold. That'll do it.
Is that your "expert" opinion?
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I love all of these complex answers!

How about a pneumatic impact gun!

Naturally step it up!

Ps keep your body parts clear!

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I'm guessing that the trans is NOT attached yet to the motor.

I'd engage the torque converter first into the trans.
It will need to be rotated to fit into the oil pump drive of the trans.
It will be _very_ hard to mate up with the engine attached.

I suggest mating the torque converter onto the box.
Mate the engine & trans together
Then couple the converter to the flexplate.

I've just rebuilt my TH350 and it took a while to get the converter to mate up and sit properly in the box.

HTH
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The Low buck method...

I've pulled out a spark plug and put a length of rope in the cylinder on the compression stroke. (with Both Valves closed)

Cheap easy and if anything is left behind it will burn off.

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Flywheel Turning tool from JEGS #60129

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Originally Posted by caskiguy
Flywheel Turning tool from JEGS #60129
Thank you for all your suggestions.

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Originally Posted by JoeMinnesota
Click a large pair of vice grips onto the flex plate (larger jaws have a gap at the back of the jaw and will clear your flex plate teeth). If you place them near a dowel, or screw a bolt into the back of the block (to act as a stop) you can torque your flex plate bolts and it will be enough to hold things from turning. Don't forget some BLUE Loctite on those bolts.

This is what I do since it's simple and works well. Everyone who's pulling engines should have a suitable pair of Vice Grips.


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