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Old Dec 2, 2017 | 09:53 PM
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I have an 81 with a 350 I just installed in the car. We got r fired and idling for about 1 minute each time and then chokes out and dies.

I’m running the stock quadrajet with all the computer crap but am running a vacuum advance hei distributor just to get it running before getting rid of the quadrajet. I do have the vacuum hooked up for the dizzy. These two should work fine temporarily correct?

Just making sure before I start adjusting timing and have to swap dizzys. Would really like to keep keep the vacuum advance so I can rip the computer out after carb swap. Already “forgot” to install all the smog crap
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I have an 81 with a 350 I just installed in the car. We got r fired and idling for about 1 minute each time and then chokes out and dies.

I’m running the stock quadrajet with all the computer crap but am running a vacuum advance hei distributor just to get it running before getting rid of the quadrajet. I do have the vacuum hooked up for the dizzy. These two should work fine temporarily correct?

Just making sure before I start adjusting timing and have to swap dizzys. Would really like to keep keep the vacuum advance so I can rip the computer out after carb swap. Already “forgot” to install all the smog crap

Isn't your '81 subject to smog testing in New Mexico? If so you are very limited as to what kind of changes you make.
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I have an 81 with a 350 I just installed in the car. We got r fired and idling for about 1 minute each time and then chokes out and dies.

I’m running the stock quadrajet with all the computer crap but am running a vacuum advance hei distributor just to get it running before getting rid of the quadrajet. I do have the vacuum hooked up for the dizzy. These two should work fine temporarily correct?

Just making sure before I start adjusting timing and have to swap dizzys. Would really like to keep keep the vacuum advance so I can rip the computer out after carb swap. Already “forgot” to install all the smog crap
It won't run correctly with a hybrid. You need either ALL the computer crap, or NONE of the computer crap.
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Old Dec 2, 2017 | 10:18 PM
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It won't run correctly with a hybrid. You need either ALL the computer crap, or NONE of the computer crap.
Thanks that would make semi sense, but if it only controls the curve then for idle sake it should idle properly / run enough to break in the cam and cycle the coolant?
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Old Dec 2, 2017 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverTooOld
Isn't your '81 subject to smog testing in New Mexico? If so you are very limited as to what kind of changes you make.
only one county, so no not where I live or where l will be moving shortly anyway. I’m from California and very familiar with smog rules
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Hmm.
put in orig dizzy? Or

Unplug carb so it goes full rich.

Adjust carb to rpm you want

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Thanks that would make semi sense, but if it only controls the curve then for idle sake it should idle properly / run enough to break in the cam and cycle the coolant?
If you unplug the carb. or the dizzy, it defaults to "limp" mode.
Then it stops all feedback from the oxygen sensor.

The crab will work basically like a normal quadrajet when unplugged, so try unplugging it all.

Set the dizzy to 16* static and try it.
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Old Dec 2, 2017 | 10:32 PM
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I have a 650 holly double pumper spread bore and a square Edelbrock carb. Neither of which are computer controlled but they don’t have electric chokes and probably need rebuild kits.

Ill give the above a try. If I’m unplugging the carb, can I unplug the air cleaner solenoid thing?

sorry I’m new to this, first build
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Originally Posted by Rarbage
I have a 650 holly double pumper spread bore and a square Edelbrock carb. Neither of which are computer controlled but they don’t have electric chokes and probably need rebuild kits.

Ill give the above a try. If I’m unplugging the carb, can I unplug the air cleaner solenoid thing?

sorry I’m new to this, first build
I don't understand what you mean.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
I don't understand what you mean.
theres actually three electronic hook ups on the carb plus the electronic choke. My AIM calls one the “fuel metering solenoid” , one “a/c solenoid connection” and one “throttle control sensor”. On a different page, the a/c solenoid is also depicted as “idle solenoid”. However if I’m thinking properly, since this is an air conditioned car, maybe it is ac as in air conditioner and not air cleaner. Likely bumps the idle up when the ac comes on?

I would imagine i leave the idle solenoid and choke connected and disconnect the fuel metering and throttle control sensor.

I also just just noticed the heater core is leaking , and not from the hose. Darn.
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Originally Posted by Rarbage
theres actually three electronic hook ups on the carb plus the electronic choke. My AIM calls one the “fuel metering solenoid” , one “a/c solenoid connection” and one “throttle control sensor”.

I would imagine i leave the idle solenoid and choke connected and disconnect the fuel metering and throttle control sensor.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Correct
so then with a non computer controlled carb, I would still have to have the main wiring harness because I need the idle connector and temp connector that goes into the intake mani, correct?

So why do all the threads about removing the computer system say to unplug the harness at the firewall.
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Solved.
Thanks Big2Bird.
Unplugged all but idle solenoid and choke. Starts up and idles fine now.
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