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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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Steve, please PM me. If anyone knows his email or another way to get a hold of Steve, PM me. Thank you.
Old Feb 5, 2018 | 07:24 PM
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I havent seen him here in a long time,
But searching for tech on google i saw his screen name with no spaces was on other vette forums

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sent you a PM
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Got it, thank you.

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Really?
Well, was he? Not here for a long while under either screen name.
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There were a myriad of subjects where the threads digressed rather quickly into the Pit of Despair, never to return. I could look through my old posts to identify the subject matter, but I've honestly attempted to purge the experience from my memory banks.

If I was being very truthful, I find it valuable to have a 'devil's advocate' in many discussions. It is helpful in distilling the truth out of a matter by forcing one to back up statements with facts. However, this certain someone did not have any interest in having a discussion. Or in little things we call "facts". Or respect for other's thoughts or opinions.

In truth, the copious volumes of time I spent on this forum simply trying to steer an honest discussion to the 'light' rather than the 'darkness' was breathtaking and could not continue. I believe the individual was cast from these halls once it was realized that many contributors could not persist in the practice. I was absolutely one of them.

I certainly enjoy my time here more now than before.

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Yes...why would anyone want to contact him....really? There is far more reasonable and educated people on this forum that him. I know I can be argumentative, but I know my place.
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I think old toobroke just had a fondness for YANKING YOUR CHAINS and a few just could not resist BARKING ..
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Originally Posted by iwasmenowhesgone
Yes...why would anyone want to contact him....really? There is far more reasonable and educated people on this forum that him. I know I can be argumentative, but I know my place.
"Buccaneer" is the original owner of DCS, the designer and Manufacturer of the Renegade Manifold replacement for the GM garbage called CROSSFIRE.. I know he and Toobroke talked frequently in its early stages .. in fact he has Serial # 004 on one of his 3 Corvettes. I m sure its something related .. as to "uneducated" .comment from.. IWASMENOWHESGONE ...did you know toobroke has a degree in Mechanical Engineering? .. Do You? just sayin...

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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
...a few just could not resist BARKING ..
Originally Posted by fishslayer143
...did you know toobroke has a degree in Mechanical Engineering?
I stated several times while having exchanges with this individual that my purpose in responding was so that his posts were not taken as the truth, or as fact, on a particular subject. On the threads he was involved in, the claims were just so absurd and unfounded in reality that it was just irresponsible to let them stand.

If his word was the last word and everyone just stayed 'hands off' once he got involved, the search function would reveal several truly moronic conversations and stupefying claims that would make the conclusions made by this forum...us...to be a bad joke.

Yes, I knew he was a Mechanical Engineer. Guess what...I'm a Mechanical Engineer and a licensed Professional Engineer who has both owned his own firm for 12+ years, and is currently stepping into ownership of a 20+ person firm. And I'll be the first one to say that having a Mechanical Engineering degree doesn't mean squat. I've known many folks who were lucky to finish 8th grade that could run rings around me on 'things mechanical'. And I've known folks with multiple Masters degrees to be complete morons.

My own Stepdad, who I respect as much as my own Father, holds a Master's Degree in Forestry, in Civil Engineering, AND in Mechanical Engineering and has been a GS-14 Engineer at NASA for many years...and he has an amazing shortage of common sense when it comes to the simplest of things.

Anyone who has to use the explanation "Why? I'm an Engineer, that's why..." at the end of their sentence has NOT sufficiently explained the supporting facts in the matter.

And that pretty much explains how things went so sideways.

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Originally Posted by keithinspace
I stated several times while having exchanges with this individual that my purpose in responding was so that his posts were not taken as the truth, or as fact, on a particular subject. On the threads he was involved in, the claims were just so absurd and unfounded in reality that it was just irresponsible to let them stand.

If his word was the last word and everyone just stayed 'hands off' once he got involved, the search function would reveal several truly moronic conversations and stupefying claims that would make the conclusions made by this forum...us...to be a bad joke.

Yes, I knew he was a Mechanical Engineer. Guess what...I'm a Mechanical Engineer and a licensed Professional Engineer who has both owned his own firm for 12+ years, and is currently stepping into ownership of a 20+ person firm. And I'll be the first one to say that having a Mechanical Engineering degree doesn't mean squat. I've known many folks who were lucky to finish 8th grade that could run rings around me on 'things mechanical'. And I've known folks with multiple Masters degrees to be complete morons.

My own Stepdad, who I respect as much as my own Father, holds a Master's Degree in Forestry, in Civil Engineering, AND in Mechanical Engineering and has been a GS-14 Engineer at NASA for many years...and he has an amazing shortage of common sense when it comes to the simplest of things.

Anyone who has to use the explanation "Why? I'm an Engineer, that's why..." at the end of their sentence has NOT sufficiently explained the supporting facts in the matter.

And that pretty much explains how things went so sideways.
I simply pointed out .. IWASMENOWHESGONE .. mistake in saying UNEDUCATED.. he is not.. No one is always right, not even you or me .. I did not see anyone make that claim.. " because I 'm an Engineer, that's why"...I did however say that some just cannot resist BARKING... apparently I was correct.. I don t know you, and want no part of 50 page war as some here like to do , I state facts , when I post, from 45 yrs of experience with the subject of C3s .. agree, disagree, I don t care.. Enough members on this and other forums know my advice is sound.. have a nice day

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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
I simply pointed out your mistake in saying UNEDUCATED.. he is not..
I had to re-read my post to be sure...it struck me as uncharacteristic of me to go so far as to call someone uneducated.

I did not.

I hold a great deal of respect for everyone. My partners, my doctor, the guy that picks up my garbage, the guy that delivers my paper, my attorney, and the Administrative Assistant who is outside my door right now. NOBODY is uneducated. I couldn't do their jobs. And they couldn't do mine.

Mr. Too is clearly a very intelligent and very capable person. Certainly far more capable than me. He was just plain wrong sometimes. Guess what? I'm just plain wrong sometimes. The biggest difference is that I can see other perspectives and modify my opinions based on new information.

Originally Posted by fishslayer143
...some just cannot resist BARKING... apparently I was correct...
Bummer. Here I thought we were having a nice little conversation. What is the difference between "barking" and "discussing"?

Not to digress, but when a forum member...ANY forum member...responds to a new thread from a new member asking "I just got a C3 and wanted to know what tire pressures you guys were running" with "16 psi is absolutely the right answer"...am I "barking" to retort? And am I "barking" to continue to discuss the merits of running, perhaps, 26 psi for too many reasons to list?

I got so tired of discussing it that my breathing goes shallow when I even type the words "tire pressure".

This is not the place for Trolls. I have absolutely zero use/tolerance for someone who "...had a fondness for YANKING [my] CHAINS". THIS FORUM should have have absolutely zero use/tolerance for someone who Trolls. This isn't YouTube. It's fun and all, but we're talking about serious stuff here.

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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
is that not your statement... "far more...educated than him"?
Nope. Not me.

The statement "...far more...educated people on this forum than him" was made by Mr. Iwasmenowhesgone. He is welcome to his opinion. His input is valued, as is yours and everyone else's. I am certainly not the comment police.

Like you, I ONLY come here with a few simple purposes in mind:
---Educate myself
---Have smarter people than me help with my problems
---Lend whatever help I can to others if I have something constructive to offer
---Help new guys with their stuff

It's all good. We're on the same page. If Mr. Too returned to this forum with an accommodating nature, I would be very happy to have his expertise and alternative opinions be shared and discussed.

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Originally Posted by keithinspace
I had to re-read my post to be sure...it struck me as uncharacteristic of me to go so far as to call someone uneducated.

I did not.

I hold a great deal of respect for everyone. My partners, my doctor, the guy that picks up my garbage, the guy that delivers my paper, my attorney, and the Administrative Assistant who is outside my door right now. NOBODY is uneducated. I couldn't do their jobs. And they couldn't do mine.

Mr. Too is clearly a very intelligent and very capable person. Certainly far more capable than me. He was just plain wrong sometimes. Guess what? I'm just plain wrong sometimes. The biggest difference is that I can see other perspectives and modify my opinions based on new information.



Bummer. Here I thought we were having a nice little conversation. What is the difference between "barking" and "discussing"?

Not to digress, but when a forum member...ANY forum member...responds to a new thread from a new member asking "I just got a C3 and wanted to know what tire pressures you guys were running" with "16 psi is absolutely the right answer"...am I "barking" to retort? And am I "barking" to continue to discuss the merits of running, perhaps, 26 psi for too many reasons to list?

I got so tired of discussing it that my breathing goes shallow when I even type the words "tire pressure".

This is not the place for Trolls. I have absolutely zero use/tolerance for someone who "...had a fondness for YANKING [my] CHAINS". THIS FORUM should have have absolutely zero use/tolerance for someone who Trolls. This isn't YouTube. It's fun and all, but we're talking about serious stuff here.
You are right, YOU did not but , the post above did, sorry I did not make that distinction clear who I was disagreeing with . But there is a time to just let it go.. to turn a thread about tire pressure into 25 pages of screaming is not the fault of just one ...it takes two to argue .. would you not agree? .
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There is no room for "Chain Yanking" on a forum such as this- Period.

Unfortunately the person in question took it to such an extreme that virtually all their posts were distracting at best.
For the more seasoned folks out here, sifting fact from "Chain Yanking" wasn't hard to do-
Just annoying.

The damage occurs when naive C3 owners who are looking to us for honest information get their chains yanked (unknowingly) instead. Then thinking this information is sound end up creating more work and re-work for themselves instead.
Personally, I don't find it amusing.
If you want to yank someones chain, do it on facebook, not here.
Just my .02
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Originally Posted by ezobens
There is no room for "Chain Yanking" on a forum such as this- Period.

Unfortunately the person in question took it to such an extreme that virtually all their posts were distracting at best.
For the more seasoned folks out here, sifting fact from "Chain Yanking" wasn't hard to do-
Just annoying.

The damage occurs when naive C3 owners who are looking to us for honest information get their chains yanked (unknowingly) instead. Then thinking this information is sound end up creating more work and re-work for themselves instead.
Personally, I don't find it amusing.
If you want to yank someones chain, do it on facebook, not here.
Just my .02
when someone posts info you disagree with, state your opinion, and whatever evidence you have to support it.. but to continue on and on an on as many did in those threads after making their point, and in some cases with ridicule , is unbecoming at the least.. sure, he participated in the feuds, but so did a lot of you guys.. be the bigger man and let it go.. lifes too short.. someone just said they were literally breathless while typing.. let it go... its just not worth it .. I m a Moderator on another Forum... I break up fights all the time.. NO ONE IS RIGHT EVERY TIME! It takes TWO to argue.. you can t have a fight by yourself.. let it go.

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keith, from someone who was raised by an engineer you are a rare breed...and correct

Who cares what the op wants to talk to him about & wether or not the guy had one or 45 screen names?
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Originally Posted by ezobens
There is no room for "Chain Yanking" on a forum such as this...
This.

Originally Posted by ezobens
The damage occurs when naive C3 owners who are looking to us for honest information get their chains yanked (unknowingly) instead.
And this.

When I see a 7 year old thread resurrected, I'm reminded of why it was important at the time to enter into those unpleasant discussions. This stuff is persistent and memorialized. That was my main point at the time, and it is my main point now.
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I assumed he won the lottery and retired.



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