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Old Apr 27, 2018 | 09:42 PM
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No:-)
This is just the very very beginning of this... Wife and I just made the final decision a few nights ago... We were going around and around and around on this for the past 3 years..
She has been pushing a Lambo on me... and we were both "ok" with the C8 coming out... just nothing that both of us want... until she saw and road in a GT40.. she's sold... and I get to build another race car,,, it will be the fastest race care I have ever built.. I am excited.
I was going to suggest at least trying one for size but I read here you may already have. I believe they are a tight fit and access difficult. But those are my only observations and I'm sure you have them covered. I was in love with the cobra kits when I just started to drive but life never got me in one. Good for you if you can follow your passion. And I think with a car like that building your own is the way to go as you can easily maintain it. With a Lambo or Ferrari you are exploited by their shops or can be a hostage. Always liked kit cars and can imagine modern parts and manufacturing has made them much better.

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Old Apr 28, 2018 | 04:55 AM
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I hear you. The newest Vette I had owned was my '72 until the current Z06 came out. I gave in at that point.
exactly where I am/was at... I never though of a "kit car" as I always remembered and linked them all to the Feario Ferrari...
I had no idea they could be real race cars with real technology with molds for original bodies and for such an incredibly high value. I will go all out on this car, as it will be the last race car I build, to old to do another, ,,, so ***** to the wall on this one,,, Fran says at RCR, if I build if the way I told him I will, he believes the end value to be around $150K, but they seem to hold there value very well over the years,, I am leaning towards the superlight GT-R.. its the 2005 Ford GT

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There is no way you are getting roll up and down windows AND keep the stock door profile. The inlet for the scoop won’t allow the window to roll on a track...
Fran says it has already been done.. so if someone else can do it, my sons and I can do it better The doors are thick,, I won't need a small flapper window if I can roll then up and down..


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I was going to suggest at least trying one for size but I read here you may already have. I believe they are a tight fit and access difficult. But those are my only observations and I'm sure you have them covered. I was in love with the cobra kits when I just started to drive but life never got me in one. Good for you if you can follow your passion. And I think with a car like that building your own is the way to go as you can easily maintain it. With a Lambo or Ferrari you are exploited by their shops or can be a hostage. Always liked kit cars and can imagine modern parts and manufacturing has made them much better.

Good luck.
Thank you,,, Like I stated above, right now we are leaning towards the larger 2005 GT version... I think I can fab the dash and interior of the GT very closely to the real GT, I have already located the exact dash switches, there are $80 each but I think I can get enough original parts, and then I can fabricate the rest, RCR also has a few of the interior parts for the dash as well,,,, the body is a direct casting from an original... we will see..

We have decided that we are going to go the the factory in July to meet Fran and see his company.. RCR

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I've always loved the GT40
Good luck with your project, and keep us updated :- )
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Wow.....great choice. Definitely on my dream list. I kept looking at 20o5'ish GT's...didn't really think about building one.

But I'd have to put an FE in it. That is just one of the best looking engines out there with 2x4's on it!!

Or I guess a new 4V with a blower!

Make sure you give us links to follow when you get started. This is going to be great!

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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 06:17 PM
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Wow.....great choice. Definitely on my dream list. I kept looking at 20o5'ish GT's...didn't really think about building one.

But I'd have to put an FE in it. That is just one of the best looking engines out there with 2x4's on it!!

Or I guess a new 4V with a blower!

Make sure you give us links to follow when you get started. This is going to be great!

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A current alloy big in FE with a vintage tunnel wedge intake sounds like a great plan
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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Is this the same company?
http://config.superlitecars.com/gtr
I like the SLC car but have so many other cars I would rather build not sure I will ever buy one.
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 03:05 PM
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So you will use a dart block and the chi cleaveland heads that flow 400 cfm. For your 427 sbf ?
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Originally Posted by c3_dk
I've always loved the GT40
Good luck with your project, and keep us updated :- )
Thank you,,, I will:-)

Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Wow.....great choice. Definitely on my dream list. I kept looking at 20o5'ish GT's...didn't really think about building one.

But I'd have to put an FE in it. That is just one of the best looking engines out there with 2x4's on it!!

Or I guess a new 4V with a blower!

Make sure you give us links to follow when you get started. This is going to be great!

JIM
Thx Jim:-) I will put the deposit on the car after i visit the factory this July..

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A current alloy big in FE with a vintage tunnel wedge intake sounds like a great plan
o yea baby!!!
but mine will be a 427 SBF

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Is this the same company?
http://config.superlitecars.com/gtr
I like the SLC car but have so many other cars I would rather build not sure I will ever buy one.
Yes,,, the base price does not include engine, power train, rear end, transmission, paint.. interior,,, and short of any upgrades... my estimated final price less my hours of work will be north of $130,000 plus 2000 hours of work.
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Sounds like a GREAT plan!
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Sounds like a GREAT plan!
thx,,,, goal, 250mph, low to under 10s 1/4

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A nice car that I could use for a DD if I wanted to and take my girl out in comfort on the town...
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Your going to need more then 650 hp to hit 250 mph.
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Originally Posted by Little Mouse
Your going to need more then 650 hp to hit 250 mph.
the cars hit 215mph with a sub 400hp engine... they weigh 2400lbs with engine and drivetrain
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The latest ford gt is very areo has. 650 hp runs 216 mph. You will need more the 650 hp to do 250 mph. Glad to see you do this veey cool car new cars beco.e a dime a dozen everybody has one before long.
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The latest ford gt is very areo has. 650 hp runs 216 mph. You will need more the 650 hp to do 250 mph. Glad to see you do this veey cool car new cars beco.e a dime a dozen everybody has one before long.
well.. guess ill need some NOS for the last 30mph:-) nope... on further search,,, 650hp at 2400 lbs should do it:-)

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well.. guess ill need some NOS for the last 30mph:-) nope... on further search,,, 650hp at 2400 lbs should do it:-)

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It's not so much the weight. A lot of land speed vehicles are quite heavy. The frontal area and the coefficient of drag that are the limiting factors of speed per a specific horsepower.

And as far as horsepower, in theory it takes 4 times as much horsepower to double your speed. So in theory to go from 216 MPH to 250 MPH it would take an additional 104 horsepower, assuming the GT40 repo has the same frontal area and coefficient of drag, which is somewhat doubtful.

Anything over 200 is going very fast, so if it won't go 250 when you are done, don't feel bad. If it does, fantastic!

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It's not so much the weight. A lot of land speed vehicles are quite heavy. The frontal area and the coefficient of drag that are the limiting factors of speed per a specific horsepower.

And as far as horsepower, in theory it takes 4 times as much horsepower to double your speed. So in theory to go from 216 MPH to 250 MPH it would take an additional 104 horsepower, assuming the GT40 repo has the same frontal area and coefficient of drag, which is somewhat doubtful.

Anything over 200 is going very fast, so if it won't go 250 when you are done, don't feel bad. If it does, fantastic!

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The copy is an exact copy... body wise, as it was cast from a real GT that ford raced.

The real GT is nearly a 1000 lbs heavier and 150 hp less than I will have..
So if the body is the same for the aerodynamics but 1000 lbs less and 150 hp more... I will hit 250:-)

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The copy is an exact copy... body wise, as it was cast from a real GT that ford raced.

The real GT is nearly a 1000 lbs heavier and 150 hp less than I will have..
So if the body is the same for the aerodynamics but 1000 lbs less and 150 hp more... I will hit 250:-)
I hope it will!

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Originally Posted by pauldana
The copy is an exact copy... body wise, as it was cast from a real GT that ford raced.

The real GT is nearly a 1000 lbs heavier and 150 hp less than I will have..
So if the body is the same for the aerodynamics but 1000 lbs less and 150 hp more... I will hit 250:-)
As V2 said before, it ain't the weight that's the problem, it's the aero drag.

While aero drag goes up by the square of the speed, the horsepower required to deal with that drag goes up by the cube. Going from 216 mph to 250 is a 16% speed increase (1.16). The horsepower needed is 1.16^3=1.55. A 55% increase in horsepower.
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216 or 250 I still like it.

If you talk to Fran again ask if there's any chance of him upgrading hub/stub axles (GT40 not sure on GT-R) from C4 to C7.
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