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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 05:32 AM
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First of all, I'm going to preface this post by letting everyone know I don't know much about forced induction, and I'm not a skilled mechanic/fabricator. But I am a redneck at heart, so I'm not gonna let that stop me from doing stupid sh*t to my car. (it's already in ruins so don't worry)


Superchargers are expensive as heck, but I always see the new ones that go on mustangs and jags going for $150 on craigslist or ~$300 refurbished online. I can deal with those kinds of prices, but not the $2500 for the legit stuff that comes with manifolds and pulleys and all that good stuff.




I'm wondering, if I made my own intake manifold out of steel tube to mount up to this, and also made a tube and a mount for the carb, would these style of sc be able to compress fuel+air without exploding?
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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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That's the core of hotrodding....have at it
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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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You want the supercharger to suck through the carb and then compress fuel and air?

I think you'd have much more success just compressing air and blowing through the carb.

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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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The cost of the kids isn't just a supercharger "Eaton". It's the intake manifold that mounts to the charger and your engine. The ones you see off mustangs and new cars are designed for front or back I takes.
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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 02:36 PM
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Unless you are a master fabricator and have a million hours at your disposal....do not mess with a factory supercharger......
Buy a used 6-71 or Vortec style kit and have fun......

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Old Jun 17, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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Ive never seen it done with a blower but i have seen a lot of guys, not just rednecks take turbos off who knows what and use bacially pipes cobbled together
Mostly they were on little import engines, some were terrors some epic fails,
I think if what you wanted to do with that type blower was even vaugely practical a rag like car craft would have done it....
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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 07:05 AM
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yep, its called Roadkill. They turboed a car with leaf blowers. Check on youtube. someone has done it, probably the Aussies, those guys can be inventive
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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 08:22 AM
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Believe it or not, this has been done before. I actually looked into doing it for a while. Basically it boils down to: get an M112, not M90 eaton. The M90 went on the 3.8 GM V6, the M112 went on the SVT Cobra and Ford Lightning. The M90 doesn't push enough air to significantly boost a 350. The M112 can actually make 8 PSI on a 350 pretty easily.

As you have already guessed, the hardest part is the intake manifold. Do a google search and find the pics of what people have done.

As I said, I looked into it, but after you ad up the costs of a used M112 (assuming it's in good shape and not worn out, $300-400), intake manifold (price depends on your fabrication skills and welding ability) the plumbing, and the carb (in my case anyway as I wouldn't want to mess with a blow-thru Quadrajet, I would definitely get a carb that can handle the blow-thru application). It ends up being a very similar price to just find a used Weiand 142, and you will make more boost and most likely be a better package overall.
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Can you make it fit under the stock hood? Or at most an L-88 hood? I'd think a dual plane port fuel injection intake like what Fitech sells could be used. Do away with the carb, and have a throttle body mounted aft. You'd probably have to add an encoder for coil-on-plugs and do away with the distributor to make room.

You may as well do an LS swap at that point. This comment was not helpful at all...
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I've seen it done a few times and it works just fine. But, you need to have decent fabrication skills to pull it offe. I recently saw a 350 with 2 of the smaller M90 superchargers on it.
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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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Here's some ideas.

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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I've seen it done a few times and it works just fine. But, you need to have decent fabrication skills to pull it offe. I recently saw a 350 with 2 of the smaller M90 superchargers on it.
Did the 350 with dual m90s run good?


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Old Jun 18, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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watch craigslist and facebook every day, within three months you'll find someone posting a 6-71 for sale for 1500-2000 with the carbs
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Turbos and prochargers are blow-thru. I believe a roots blower is suck-thru only. It would look funny and not be very sturdy bolted to the top of a carb...
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 08:11 AM
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keep an eye on ebay, lots of refurbished B and M or Weiand street blowers come up here and there, thats more than enough to make good power on the street.
Friend built the cheapest (bomb) 383 he could, ran an old 144 on it. wrong cam, 882 heads, heavy chevelle convertible. With a 3.08 gear was shocking how much harder his car pulled than NA. True fwy flyer.
4-6 lbs is huge.
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They can also be found on offshoreonly forum classified section. Lot of guys with merc 575SC engines go more displacement and bigger blowers.
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Old Jun 21, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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Somewhere on the vast inter web there is a video of someone using a factory Eaton blower on a 5.0 Mustang. He made an adaptor to connect the output side of the blower to the throttle body. You could do the same to a blow thru carb.
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You can find examples of this kind of fabrication without much effort searching. A M90 on a LS, thread shows a build with 2 M90's on a LT1.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...arger-kit.html


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Turbos and prochargers are blow-thru. I believe a roots blower is suck-thru only. It would look funny and not be very sturdy bolted to the top of a carb...
LOL, You don't mount the blower onto the carb. You mount it with brackets to the side of the engine and plumb to the carb with pipes similar to a turbo would be plumbed.
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Old Jun 21, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz

LOL, You don't mount the blower onto the carb. You mount it with brackets to the side of the engine and plumb to the carb with pipes similar to a turbo would be plumbed.
Ok so you may laugh, but I was also thinking the OP was wanting to mount this similar to how you would route like a 142 roots mini blower (carb on top of blower). So are you saying people with carbed motors are fabbing a mounting bracket for the m90 and using it as a compressor (sort of like a procharger or a vortec centrifugal) and then running a charge pipe from the bottom of the M90 to a carb hat on top of the carb? If so, that is awesome.
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[QUOTE=Thunor;1597422561]First of all, I'm going to preface this post by letting everyone know I don't know much about forced induction, and I'm not a skilled mechanic/fabricator. But I am a redneck at heart, so I'm not gonna let that stop me from doing stupid sh*t to my car. (it's already in ruins so don't worry)


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All in good fun. Good luck OP. Keep us posted.

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