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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 09:34 PM
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So a few weeks ago I went to take my 80 Corvette that I purchased a few months ago on its first "long" drive to go get it inspected. I get about 6 miles into my trip and the transmission starts slipping out of 3rd into 2nd. At first I shrug it off as it went back to 3rd and drove fine. Then 2 miles later it did it again. So I started looking for a place to turn around. Then after I got turned around, it would no longer shift to 3rd and then about 6 miles from my house I only had first so I limped it to a friends house for a little less than a mile after that. I wasn't going to leave that car on the side of the road. I towed it home the day after and load/unloaded it under it's own power.

I let it idle when I got it into the garage and discovered the transmission fluid was way overfilled. I neglected to check the fluid before my take off. I should've been more through going over the car. The transmission had been flushed a few years ago by some Corvette shop according to the PO.

So fast forward to where I am at now. I did some research on the forums and came up with some possible causes of my problems, other than the overfilling. Came up with a Stripped Governor Gear and a failed Vacuum Modulator. I am pretty certain the Vacuum Modulator is gone since when I stopped at my friends house, the car was smoking (white smoke) from the exhaust. So I believe its sucking tranny fluid from the Vacuum Modulator.

So with my information, I pulled the Governor Cover off and about 2.5 quarts of fluid came out. Confirmed the overfilled theory. And I pulled out my governor. It checks out.

My predicament now is when I decided to get the parts to go ahead and do a filter, pan, and gasket replacement as well as a new Vacuum Modulator. When I dropped the pan and saw what was settled on the bottom and the color of the fluid is more like Strawberry Juice than clear red fluid. I am now concerned that the tranny is junk. I really don't want to rebuild this transmission as I am planning on going to a 2004r next year. I was initially planning on running the TH350C for at least next summer after I got my built Vortec 350 in.

Sorry for the long post. Just looking for any insight if my transmission is junk or not. I also discovered that the connector for the lockup is unplugged. I have yet to locate it in the car either. I'm attaching the picture of the inside bottom of my pan.

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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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I see a lot of money laying in your pan. Looks like clutch material.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 10:00 PM
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Looks like someone rebuilt it in the past with the good RED Alto clutches.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 06:08 AM
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Sounds like I'll be swapping a new transmission in with my Vortec build then. More money. I was hoping to drive it until it got too cold to see if it needed anymore work done to it.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:47 AM
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No expert on TH350s but, it doesn't seem likely the tranny was overfilled three yrs ago. It would have burped quit a bit out on the ground during winter storage. Instead, I suspect the pump is no longer building pressure. So you have excess fluid in the pan, burned & slipping bands and a tranny that refuses to shift. Basically, most of the fluid is in the pan instead of up in the valve body and torque converter perhaps.

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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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No expert on TH350s but, it doesn't seem likely the tranny was overfilled three yrs ago. It would have burped quit a bit out on the ground during winter storage. Instead, I suspect the pump is no longer building pressure. So you have excess fluid in the pan, burned & slipping bans and a tranny that refuses to shift. Basically, most of the fluid is in the pan instead of up in the valve body and torque converter perhaps.
I didn't give that a thought. I didn't have the opportunity to see if there was any ATF on the ground since the guy had it outside for me when I went to look at it. The battery was junk so I couldn't drive it either.
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 06:58 PM
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Check the coolant in the radiator. Looks like the cooler in the radiator leaked. I wouldn't be surprised if the coolant looked pink too.

If you'd caught it right away it might have been able to be flushed. But, looking at that pan picture, i see too much clutch material to expect it to still be good. But, you might want to try a flush anyways and see what it does.

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Went to 350 school the first year they came out and forgot all I learned. But handled a problem such as yours where it down shifted and seemed to hit passing gear. I had a talk with a pro and we decided it was the direct clutch drum worn where the rings seat. That was it! The wear was very little but with a good used drum all worked good.
I would have to agree with the comment on the material in the pan. I think your going to rebuild that one.

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So I think lionelhutz is right about my transmission. I haven't drained the coolant yet, but given that the ATF looks likes Strawberry Juice. I think the transmission cooler in the radiator is leaking and got coolant in my transmission. So I am gonna dump some ATF back into it and move the Corvette to my other bay in the garage and the transmission will be coming out. I probably won't be rebuilding the TH350C. I'm just gonna swap it out for a 2004R. I guess this is what happens when you buy a "cheap" C3 Corvette that sat for 4 years. I'll have it on the road next summer. I can take my time with the motor swap and transmission swap over what appears to be another long winter.
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In 2013 I went after my TH350c tranny leak that turned out to be the large pump O-Ring was rock hard.
I pulled it and fully rebuilt it myself because; I was leery of a shop messing something else up and of course they say, "it was already like that"
Good thing I pulled it as one of the planetary gears was eating into the housing.
A local trans shop (I know the guy) had all the used/very usable hard parts I needed...I did install new clutches and a few steel disks along with a high quality rebuild kit, Oh and a rebuilt TC.
I would encourage anyone to do a little research; I actually got an excellent DVD with a step-by-step instructions showing detailed inspection, what to look for, how to properly take measurements and reassemble.
I saved thousands and had pride in my work too.
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