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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 09:38 AM
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Hey gang, has anyone done research on buying a tire machine? I would like to see if there is a used unit that can do C3 and C6 wheels and what the price range might be on one of these? TIA
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any machine that can do a c6 wheel can do a c3 wheel. a c3 rally rim is just a basic steel wheel and just about ANY tire machine every made can handle that.

i have a used hoffmann i bought out of a tire shop.

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1- rim clamp machine (not older center post).
2- can handle larges wheels- 20" plus

search your local craigslist and you can find a used one. some guys ask crazy money, but you can find good machines for under $1,000. just dont buy an old coats machine, you see tons of them for sale, and most wont handle large rims. a lot of tire machines pre- 2000s couldnt handle anything over like an 18" rim.
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i did a search since you are near cleveland on the local clist

you DONT want one like this :
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/pts...717821208.html

you do want something like this (provided it can go large enough) :
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls...725630826.html
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Thanks Joe. Do you think the seller would be honest about the machines capability for rim size or should I get model number and research.
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 07:52 PM
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Go look at a machine with a wheel-tire you want to use it on. Ask the machine, not the seller...
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 08:00 PM
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Def get model number and search. You can find just about any manual online with a model number.
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Do you go through that many tires where it's cost effective or do you just want the convenience of having one?
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It's a cost and convenience matter. 5 in my household all drive. I have 11 cars on premises now. 3 track cars that have tires as consumables. I guess the consumables are the deciding factor.
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Not to mention trailer tires...
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Wow I never did the math. I just intuitively thought it was the right place of equipment. With trailers ant misc. I have over 50 tires in use under my umbrella..WOW
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Don't forget you'll need a balancer also.

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Originally Posted by Tiger Joe
i did a search since you are near cleveland on the local clist

you DONT want one like this :
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/pts...717821208.html

you do want something like this (provided it can go large enough) :
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls...725630826.html
I used to use the coats 20 20 when I worked in a garage as a teenager.
I still remember that bar/lever that goes over the center post coming back at me, and hitting me right between the eyes.
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you can get by with a cheap bubble balancer for balancing the tires.
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Originally Posted by Fredtoo
I used to use the coats 20 20 when I worked in a garage as a teenager.
I still remember that bar/lever that goes over the center post coming back at me, and hitting me right between the eyes.
Yeah, I remember that. I did close to a thousand tires with one of those machines in my teens and early twenties (I used to put a chalk mark on the wall after every tire I pulled or replaced on a rim). The bead bar always scared the hell outta me, and I always one hand on it in case it wanted to fly off.

Regarding the OP, I'm interested too in what prices guys are asking on the newer type machines. I looked around for several years but could never find one that I could justify paying the high asking price. About twenty years ago I finally said to hell with it and just welded up a manual changer stand, and have done dozens of tires on it over the years, ranging from 15" to 18". It's good exercise, and I save myself 10-15 bucks each time I need to fix or swap a tire. I've also got a simple bubble balancer that's served me well over the years on both my daily driver vehicles and my track wheels for the Corvette.
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Originally Posted by 69427
Yeah, I remember that. I did close to a thousand tires with one of those machines in my teens and early twenties (I used to put a chalk mark on the wall after every tire I pulled or replaced on a rim). The bead bar always scared the hell outta me, and I always one hand on it in case it wanted to fly off.

Regarding the OP, I'm interested too in what prices guys are asking on the newer type machines. I looked around for several years but could never find one that I could justify paying the high asking price. About twenty years ago I finally said to hell with it and just welded up a manual changer stand, and have done dozens of tires on it over the years, ranging from 15" to 18". It's good exercise, and I save myself 10-15 bucks each time I need to fix or swap a tire. I've also got a simple bubble balancer that's served me well over the years on both my daily driver vehicles and my track wheels for the Corvette.
I picked up a manual changer and a nomar bar and goodies few years back. For something I don't use often the extra time it takes to change a tire doesn't justify the costs of a regular changer.
It paid for itself twice over in not only $ but the time to take tires to a shop.
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Originally Posted by Rodnok1
I picked up a manual changer and a nomar bar and goodies few years back. For something I don't use often the extra time it takes to change a tire doesn't justify the costs of a regular changer.
It paid for itself twice over in not only $ but the time to take tires to a shop.
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I have an Atlas TC411 rim clamp machine that I split the cost with two other guys about 10 years ago or so for about $600 off ebay. It's not the best machine, but it does the job for just about anything I need to do. It will accommodate 18x12's and 335's, and also accommodates the large diameter of my truck tires. I've saved a ton of money over the years mounting my own tires. I typically don't bother balancing my race tires, but for anything that needs balancing I'll just take them in after I've mounted the tires.

edit: The machine could take on wider wheels with a spacer added between the arm and base.

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Does anyone have images of manual machines working with modern (C6) wheels?
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