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Standard operating procedure is to zero deck an engine based on your rotating assembly. .025 is a nice bump in compression and when cut will be a nice flat sealing surface. Use a Fel-Pro .041 gasket here.
Putting more cam in this engine without increasing compression is shooting yourself in the foot. Compression on its own increases power but it's real benefit is to set the groundwork for other items to enhance power.
The 454HO could use closer to 10 to 1 with a real camshaft.
Decking is a nice to have sort of deal for what you're doing...but you could just use some .020 steel shim gaskets.
JIM
Listen to this guy, he's the expert on running tight quench. Word is he keeps his tight to keep the rods from stretching LOL.
Kidding aside, this guy knows his way around a big block build.
I have EVERY engine I build decked to leave the pistons .005 in the hole. As long as you don't screw up royally, it's a machining procedure that you'll only have to have done once and you'll reap the benefits every time you step on the loud pedal.
Think I'll go ahead and have it decked while its apart. I know if I don't I'll always be wondering what I might have left on the table. Oh well its only money..........
Think I'll go ahead and have it decked while its apart. I know if I don't I'll always be wondering what I might have left on the table. Oh well its only money..........
Mock up your new assembly and measure how far the piston is in the hole and have it milled that much to zero deck.....
Listen to this guy, he's the expert on running tight quench. Word is he keeps his tight to keep the rods from stretching LOL.
Kidding aside, this guy knows his way around a big block build.
I have EVERY engine I build decked to leave the pistons .005 in the hole. As long as you don't screw up royally, it's a machining procedure that you'll only have to have done once and you'll reap the benefits every time you step on the loud pedal.
Hey..mine are .009" OUT of the hole. A little rubbin' never hurt anyone.....LOL
There's actually a lot of OEM engines that were built that way. Ford did it in '86 or so on 302's and others and Mopar had some small block ones way up out of there. Right gaskets makes it all come together.
Mine are .006" out of the hole. I used to set the race engines up to where the piston and head were just showing signs of touching and then take a couple thousands off.
Think I'll go ahead and have it decked while its apart. I know if I don't I'll always be wondering what I might have left on the table. Oh well its only money..........
If it's something your machinist knows how to do safely, have them add the "eyebrows" - notches in the tops of the bores to provide additional valve unshrouding. My local shop charges $8/hole and have worked up a jig to make it almost foolproof. This is another machining step that only has to be done once and you'll reap the benefits from now on.
It's only money and as long as it's yours, we're only too happy to help you spend it!
I'll ask about the eyebrow notching. If they can't do this is this something I can do? I am already at .100 over bore.
THANKS>>>>>
If you are at 4.350 bore then notching will help very little....I think it is all but disappeared at 4.350.
Stock 454 Fel Pro Gasket is 4.380....and you cannot notch past it.....so....
Jebby
Last edited by Jebbysan; Jan 24, 2019 at 01:42 PM.
Yep. I'd still bolt a head down and flip it over on the engine stand and see how much of a ledge there is where the combustion chamber overhangs the cylinder bore. It might not be much, but once it's done, the HP is free. It'll have to have at least some affect on turbulence and flow.
Yep. I'd still bolt a head down and flip it over on the engine stand and see how much of a ledge there is where the combustion chamber overhangs the cylinder bore. It might not be much, but once it's done, the HP is free. It'll have to have at least some affect on turbulence and flow.