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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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I've been trying to double flare the 3/8" diameter steel tube for my pump to carb gas line. I have a couple of light duty flaring kits and they can't clamp up tight enough on the tube to stop it from slipping. What kind of tool is best. I've seen K-D and Ridgid that look more heavy duty than my Sears.

Update: I bought the Ridgid #345 Flaring tool and it worked great (After a few trial and error parts). I used the buttons from the cheap set. Bought it from http://WWW.tools-plus.com for $39.65 plus shipping. They sell the buttons too. Thanks for all the advice.


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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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I had a kit from Eastwood that wouldn't do stainless steel. Bought the Rigid kit and did my whole car with it with SS. :smash:
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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The cheaper tools never hold tight enough for a double flare. The correct solution is to buy the Rigid tool. *My* solution was to clamp the cheap tool into a bench vice to increase the clamping force. Put the tubing into your cheap tool and then tighten it as much as you can, then put the whole thing in a bench vice and really clamp down on it. Works great!
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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Do you guys have a source for the Rigid kit? Expensive?
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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One word: RIDGID. This from a pipefitter with over 30 yrs. experience.....
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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Yeah but I still couldn't double flare 3/8" stainless doing that. There is a nice kit here at work that I think I am going to try.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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I think I got mine at Home Depot.... can't remember. I got 2 junkie ones before the Rigid one that worked and I am a little unsure now of which one came from where. I think I found the Rigid at Home Depot after being told they don't carry those things - try a plumbing supply store! :rolleyes: MJ
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks to all. I've ordered the Rigid.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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Duke94, Have you seen lars paper on how to make a fuel line? It is very detailed and I found it extremely helpful. Available at http://www.corvettefaq.com


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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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Is this the same Ridgid company that makes all the power tools you see at Home Depot? I ask because I always considered them mediocre quality yet you guys think pretty highly of the flaring tool.

Also, I am faced with replacing my foward-to-rear running brake line. I'm guessing this is usually done with the body off (doesn't seem possible otherwise). I'm thinking I could cut the line in half and create a connection with a flare tool/kit. Has anyone ever done this on a brake line? Do you think it'll be safe???
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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Thanks to all. I've ordered the Rigid.
I couldn't find a Rigid online that specifically stated it did double flares in it's description. :confused:
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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I found the Ridgid at http://www.tools-plus.com. I assume I can use the buttons that I have for the double flare if it doesn't come with any. I think the trick is to have jaws that are rather thick so more surface area grabs the tube.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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Same Ridgid. I heard that Home Depot "borrowed" (bought/licensed, whatever) thier brand name to sell their power tools. Ridgid's been making some top notch stuff (like the flaring kits) for years. The Home Depot thing is recent. Old Ridgid stuff = great, Home Depot Ridgid stuff = what you'd expect from Home Depot.

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Just buy a cheap tool and use aluminum lines. I just use a little wenol on mine from time to time, and they shine right up. Good luck.

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Doesn't aluminum fatigue crack with vibration and heat?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Also, I am faced with replacing my foward-to-rear running brake line. I'm guessing this is usually done with the body off (doesn't seem possible otherwise). I'm thinking I could cut the line in half and create a connection with a flare tool/kit. Has anyone ever done this on a brake line? Do you think it'll be safe???
No problem with a flare connection coupling. I had one in my street rod because I didn't want to buy 25' of tubing but NAPA only sold 4' sections. Never had a leak or anything. I clamped the coupler to the frame so it wouldn't shake around and crack the lines. Joe
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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The thing that makes the Rigid flaring tool work while the others dont is the extra vice-like screw-in piece on the side. This holds the tubing tight. The Rigid flaring tool is a bit more heavy-duty than the $10 tool I got at Pep Boys, and the $10 tool I got from Harborfreight, both complete junk so quality is a relative term!! :)



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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 05:21 AM
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The thing that makes the Rigid flaring tool work while the others dont is the extra vice-like screw-in piece on the side. This holds the tubing tight. The Rigid flaring tool is a bit more heavy-duty than the $10 tool I got at Pep Boys, and the $10 tool I got from Harborfreight, both complete junk so quality is a relative term!! :)



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Thanks Mark.
OK, I got the tool, but where can I get the part to do the double flare? NA at Home depot.

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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Len, I got mine from Harbor Freight, and I've also seen it in the Summit catalog.

Here it is for $9.99: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40878

Here it is for $39: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=9617

I bought the Harbor Freight model, but the only thing I use out of the kit is the 3/8" die for double flaring. The die work fine, the clamps are junk. I have never seen the dies available separately. This die and the Ridgid clamp will work great together.

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 05:13 PM
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Len, I got mine from Harbor Freight, and I've also seen it in the Summit catalog.

Here it is for $9.99: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40878

Here it is for $39: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=9617

I bought the Harbor Freight model, but the only thing I use out of the kit is the 3/8" die for double flaring. The die work fine, the clamps are junk. I have never seen the dies available separately. This die and the Ridgid clamp will work great together.

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Thanks Joe, I bought the Ridgid Clamp & just need the dies. Not bad I guess for $10.....shipping will be almost as much though. :eek: :D
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