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Old May 6, 2019 | 02:18 PM
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Has anyone fitted a wheel speed sensor to there c3? i thought it might work getting a reading off the bolts on the back of the wilwood discs

anyone played with this sort of thing?
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Old May 6, 2019 | 03:03 PM
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What would you do with the data? I thought it would be marginally useful for autoX but it seemed like too much of a "science project".
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What would you do with the data? I thought it would be marginally useful for autoX but it seemed like too much of a "science project".
iam having major traction issues, half throttle inputs, 4000rpm max revs, still leads to major wheel spin in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, still on the run in period for engine

would have 2 inputs, wheel speed and gearbox speed, the holley dominator ecu setup to read these 2 inputs and when there different, ecu knows theres some wheel slip and retards the timing or drive by wire throttle inputs to stop slip - ie a traction control system
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Finnegan of roadkill showed where he had a speed sensor attached to his driveline and then attached to his Holley Dominator for potential traction control. I have not looked further, but the sensor he had on the driveline looked pretty simple to install. Can't remember what show it was on (not roadkill or FMS). But the vehicle was Blasphemi and can probably be found on Motortrend somewhere. Maybe not a ton of help, but it can be done.
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Old May 6, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Believe it or not I had a similar problem with my 8,000 mile, '85 Corvette and it's 10 year old, original Goodyear Gatorback tires. A new set of tires (Goodyear GS-D3's at the time) and problem was fixed... for the most part.

Good luck, it sounds like a fun project.

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I have not put them on a corvette wheel. But have on a number of Harley Davidson applications. Mostly to convert older bikes to run a electric speedo. A simple hall effect sensor will count most anything. The electric speedo l have been running on my C-3 for over 10 years runs a Harley pickup mounted to a steel strap held onto the tail of my gearbox with hoseclamps. Counts the u joint holder part of the yoke. A hall effect sensor will count most anything magnetic. Good luck
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i remember seeing an add-on cruise control. 2 or 3 magnets on driveshaft with a REALLY bubba-looking hose clamp.
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https://www.holley.com/brands/racepa...s/rpm_sensors/
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That’s what you right foot is for...
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
Believe it or not I had a similar problem with my 8,000 mile, '85 Corvette and it's 10 year old, original Goodyear Gatorback tires. A new set of tires (Goodyear GS-D3's at the time) and problem was fixed... for the most part.

Good luck, it sounds like a fun project.

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I agree a good set of wide high performance tires will fix your wheel spin problem.
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Originally Posted by corvettedave383
iam having major traction issues, half throttle inputs, 4000rpm max revs, still leads to major wheel spin in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, still on the run in period for engine

would have 2 inputs, wheel speed and gearbox speed, the holley dominator ecu setup to read these 2 inputs and when there different, ecu knows theres some wheel slip and retards the timing or drive by wire throttle inputs to stop slip - ie a traction control system
Holley now sells a basic traction control setup for the Holley HP and Dominator ECUs; maybe even the Sniper ECUs. It's a software feature that you have to pay $500 for a code to unlock in the ECU and then they sell drive shaft speed sensors and unlocking the feature reveals some new menus in the software. -They WERE relying upon the Davis traction control and they work with it really well, but its' $1,000 for a non-self-learning version. The $500 Holley option seems like a rip-off until you learn how expensive the other options are...

You have to first upgrade your ECU to v5.


If you get the drive shaft sensor you can apparently setup your own "poor-man's traction control" using free capabilities in the Dominator ECU, too: https://forums.holley.com/showthread...action-Control




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https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/555-100
Time-Based Traction Management


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https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/555-100
Time-Based Traction Management


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thats only for drag strip, looking for street really
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Originally Posted by maj75
That’s what you right foot is for...
its not that simply, no matter how carefully you are, when the turbo's kick in, you have no chance of stopping wheel spin
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
I agree a good set of wide high performance tires will fix your wheel spin problem.
have wide tyres fitted already , 335/30/18, could update to some track type tyres, toyo's r888r's etc
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Originally Posted by corvettedave383
thats only for drag strip, looking for street really
Then I think you're stuck with this: https://forums.holley.com/showthread...action-Control
Front and rear-wheel speed sensors, compare the diff between the two and plot it in a 2-dimensional table that pulls out more timing as the difference between the two gets bigger. (Free, though...)



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Originally Posted by NewbVetteGuy
Then I think you're stuck with this: https://forums.holley.com/showthread...action-Control
Front and rear-wheel speed sensors, compare the diff between the two and plot it in a 2-dimensional table that pulls out more timing as the difference between the two gets bigger. (Free, though...)
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from what ive read on other forums in the last day or 2, this seems like the easiest option, using a hall effect sensor and getting reading of the back of the brake rotor hat bolts and like you say simple 2-dimensional table to pull timing or drive by wire throttle inputs

thanks
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