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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 08:55 PM
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This is 10 seconds cranking
book says dont count out pump yet lol...might be plugged..

ok what is recommended pump and associated hardware...

blow compreesed air into pump?


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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 09:21 PM
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Fuel gauge says 7 psi while cranking not idling like book...
removing lines..im not going tank yet..
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 09:24 PM
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Do it all at once, or you will contaminate the new parts.
Do you want a list?
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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In addition to hose schmutz, some of that black crap may be bits of the pump's diaphragm sloughing off (today's gas frying yesterday's rubber).

Clean it out from end-to-end; think of prep for colonoscopy

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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Do it all at once, or you will contaminate the new parts.
Do you want a list?
yes please ....dammit

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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 71chimera
Clean it out from end-to-end; think of prep for colonoscopy
Pretty much pictures it.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 11:14 PM
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Mine stopped at small intestine ...but understand..
sooooo..........
fuel pump, hoses, filter? For now?
as usual not one vendor supplies all..and rockauto pulling usual multiple warehouses shipping cost and no s hose

my guess that was original filter...


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Cheap enough.
You can get the filter at NAPA when you buy real hose that will last another 40 years.
If a fuel tank hose is cracked, and you suck air, it fails.
See who has a filter sock, or change the whole sender. Some guys do because it's the labor, not the part. I do.
Senders and floats die too.
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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 05:47 AM
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Any thoughts on draining gas? I have both lines pinched at pump but gas still coming from metal line to carb..

used 2 pinch on feed line..theres quite a bit of gas in that damn thing...i sure hope ots the pump..blew thru line from pump to carb its clean...
gas pours out of hose from tank...i may unpinch to verify flow..
maybe local pump will see..no way to know if pump bad or not..of course pump rod slid down...debating puling plate or not



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Any thoughts on draining gas? I have both lines pinched at pump but gas still coming from metal line to carb..
How much fuel do you have in the tank?
You will get that flow of fuel at the rubber hoses as long as the level in tank is higher than the fuel pump.
I usually don't get much fuel at the carb if I need to R&R carb. Only what little pressure is left in the line when I loosen the nut.
Siphon using the hose,fuel can method.
Your quick!

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Look inside that Brass fitting on the pump. Make sure the flair seat is perfect. Now is the time to replace it if not.

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I think it looks ok...
i assume as the rod fell out the very polished end is the one that rides inside the engine? The other side is not polished assume that is the pump side?

odds napa gets me today...50 bucks and delphi pump..




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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 08:17 AM
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Check your oil. If the fuel pump diaphragm breaks it will pump gas into the crankcase. See if oil level is high or smells of gas. Bad fuel pump?
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I'm not 100% sure looking at your photo, but that side of the pump rod facing the camera looks like normal wear and rounded a little and should go against the fuel pump arm. The other end should be more flat.

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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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Use only the molded s hoses. Fuel line will NOT work okay. in that application.
Use thick grease to hold the rod in place while installing the pump.
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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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Thanks all..
all up to napa now..all cleaned up..
yup will be ordering s hose not a chance napa has
back to pushrod..one side smooth one not..assume smooth in engine?


Smooth side...this must be in engine..its cleaner longer

Cleaned up

Not so polished just a ring in middle assume feul pump side
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Not bad for 40 years of rust? All in the filter was metallic not rubber...
this had to be original..



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Yes.
If you want to check it for straight, roll it on a piece of glass.
Grease it up to stay in place, including both ends.
Use PTFE paste on elbow. Fuel line flare is dry. You cab put a dab of oil BEHIND the flare, where the nut rubs, to aid in tightening.
Sometimes that line from pump to carb cracks on the flare face. New ones are fine and cheap.

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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ToomRaider
Check your oil. If the fuel pump diaphragm breaks it will pump gas into the crankcase. See if oil level is high or smells of gas. Bad fuel pump?
nope just a little oil from lever area


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That could be some rust residual in your filter.
Remove your fuel cap and shine a light into your tank to see if there is any rust or sediment sloshing around in the tank.
If so drop the tank, clean it up and replace the sock.
If you can’t drop the tank now, order a couple extra filters, change them after every couple of drives until you can drop and clean your tank.
Don’t wait to long or you’ll be replacing the pump again soon and spending more time on the side of the road.
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