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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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Im trying to identify the transmission in my ‘68 4 speed and I climbed under the car and found these numbers. Can someone help?

Hortizontally on the side 3857574GM
on the rear near the shifter 3 25660
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Neither of those numbers come up in any of my trans books. Are you sure you read them correctly? Post a couple pics, might make it easier.
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Neither of those numbers come up in any of my trans books. Are you sure you read them correctly? Post a couple pics, might make it easier.
Cheers, Greg

here are




pictures. Not the easiest to get cause the car is in a bad spot to get under it. These are on the side.
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These are on the rear



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Looks like 3925660

https://www.5speeds.com/muncie2.htm
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Ill agree with that and so therefore it is a Muncie. Any idea how I can tell if its a M20, M21 or M22?
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my guess is m20 https://www.ebay.com/i/392308718468?...BoCI_UQAvD_BwE
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More times than not there is a flat flange in the area of the "ears" that bolt up to the bellhousing. There should be a set of numbers which start with the letter 'P". Digits will be a date code- 'P8A01 which denotes to Muncie(P) 1968 Jan 01. The 660 casting number was used in all Muncie designations. The really only way to tell is the M20 will have 2 rings on the input shaft.
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This is a 69 only to show where to look. 68 might not have a letter designation.


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Jd,
I agree with BKarol that looks like 3925660 which makes more sense. That case was used from 1968-'70 but that's just about all the info that number will give. The extension housing 3857584 was used from 1966-'70, with passenger side speedo and 27 spline output shaft. So from this limited info this could be the orig. trans from your car. But you'll have to check those flange numbers like BK posted. As far as M-20 or M-21, can't tell without removing the transmission.
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Thank you. That was helpful. I am probably going ti pull it sometime this year and send it for a rebuild.
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Originally Posted by BKarol
This is a 69 only to show where to look. 68 might not have a letter designation.


Agree no suffix on every 68 Muncie I have owned. There is maybe a mark like a small "c" where the suffix letter would be but that is likely a casting mark and no indication of M20, M21 or M22.

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