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What intake
I am building a 383 stroker. It has 10:7:1 compression, TEA 205 heads, 3500 stall, 350th, 373 gear, 850 quick fuel carb, 1 3/4 headers, cam is a solid roller 316/328 660/600 108 centerline cam. I have a victor jr unported intake and carb spacer now. Should I switch to a super victor, wilson ported super victor or vr jr, wilson profiler intakes, motown, or holley. Car is a weekend warrior street strip machine. Thank you Jason.
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The Wilson ported Super Victor is the best 23 degree manifold available......the only other that beat it was the AFR Plastic single plane that was discontinued, and not by flow...but because the plastic runners ran so much cooler.......
The Wilson is money.....but nothing else compares. The Dart is an excellent intake too for about half the money and very close to the Wilson. The next one down is the Brodix HV1.
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The Wilson is money.....but nothing else compares. The Dart is an excellent intake too for about half the money and very close to the Wilson. The next one down is the Brodix HV1.
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Take a look at the Team G 7530(?) Which is an air gap intake. With a 1-3/4" drop base air cleaner, I used a 4" tall filter under the stock '76 hood. You won't lose much low end tq either. I'm very happy with mine.
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I chose mine because I wanted flexibility in carb height and I am making plenty of power with the 406 anyway....
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I think it would fit with a two inch cowl and dropped base.....
I think the Team G is 4.1” high average height in the center of the carb pad.....with a 1/2” spacer and a flat base no drop 11x2” air cleaner, I have at least another inch.....
The Super Victor is 5.5” high.....
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Use a well ported Team G, 1" spacer dont see a need for a larger intake and runs great on the street.
Id play with what you have, optimize it then see where youre at.Like the Holley Strip Dominator 300-25, the Keith Dorton is even better if you can find one.
Id play with what you have, optimize it then see where youre at.Like the Holley Strip Dominator 300-25, the Keith Dorton is even better if you can find one.
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I am building a 383 stroker. It has 10:7:1 compression, TEA 205 heads, 3500 stall, 350th, 373 gear, 850 quick fuel carb, 1 3/4 headers, cam is a solid roller 316/328 660/600 108 centerline cam. I have a victor jr unported intake and carb spacer now. Should I switch to a super victor, wilson ported super victor or vr jr, wilson profiler intakes, motown, or holley. Car is a weekend warrior street strip machine. Thank you Jason.
You would actually need closer to a 6000 rpm stall to make that cam actually work. I had a similar cam in a dragster and I used a 6500 stall with a trans brake
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I can tell you right now from experience with my solid roller 383 that you have some severe mismatch problems. First of all you have very mild use small valve heads and worst item is the cam. I was trying to figure out what 316/328 advertised actually means compared to a real world .050 lift number. It would be a drag racing only 278/286 @ .050 You run that kind of cam in motors designed to do 9000 rpm. Those tiny 2.02 valve heads of yours are going to be out of breath with 383 ci way below 7000 rpm
You would actually need closer to a 6000 rpm stall to make that cam actually work. I had a similar cam in a dragster and I used a 6500 stall with a trans brake
You would actually need closer to a 6000 rpm stall to make that cam actually work. I had a similar cam in a dragster and I used a 6500 stall with a trans brake
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Generally 99% of mechanics never or rarely do performance builds and even less performance builds on a specific engine type. Generally all modern flat top two valve relief forged spiral lock floating pistons are made for up to 2.08 intake valves. 2.02 to 2.08 is only .03 difference in diameter. Intake opening "Before Top dead Center" is of a bigger concern. Big cam timing like 316 advertised is a problem when you look at the valve event numbers.
I personally wanted a 3500 - 7500 rpm power band in my 383. The biggest solid roller that I tried was a 242/248@.050 when I had an auto tranny. It actually was on the upper limits of street drivability. If drivability wasn't as much of a concern something like 248 intake might work.
As to intake type. All manifolds list the exit port size. All heads list the intake port opening size. That dictates your intake manifold choice. MY AFR 210's use a Team G 7530. My Dart 227 CC uses the motown intake
All my motors use a wood 4 hole spacer to help fuel signal to the downleg boosters and it is the best thermal spacer made.
I personally wanted a 3500 - 7500 rpm power band in my 383. The biggest solid roller that I tried was a 242/248@.050 when I had an auto tranny. It actually was on the upper limits of street drivability. If drivability wasn't as much of a concern something like 248 intake might work.
As to intake type. All manifolds list the exit port size. All heads list the intake port opening size. That dictates your intake manifold choice. MY AFR 210's use a Team G 7530. My Dart 227 CC uses the motown intake
All my motors use a wood 4 hole spacer to help fuel signal to the downleg boosters and it is the best thermal spacer made.
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I did a 388" for a buddy of mine with older Dart 200cc as cast heads.....the Weiand single plane mentioned above and a 248*@-050 solid roller cam on a 109 LSA. Sucker will idle off from a red light with a Muncie wide ratio and 3.36 gears....spins 7500 any time you want to and has been doing it for years. Solid 11 sec '65 Vette.
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Generally 99% of mechanics never or rarely do performance builds and even less performance builds on a specific engine type. Generally all modern flat top two valve relief forged spiral lock floating pistons are made for up to 2.08 intake valves. 2.02 to 2.08 is only .03 difference in diameter. Intake opening "Before Top dead Center" is of a bigger concern. Big cam timing like 316 advertised is a problem when you look at the valve event numbers.
I personally wanted a 3500 - 7500 rpm power band in my 383. The biggest solid roller that I tried was a 242/248@.050 when I had an auto tranny. It actually was on the upper limits of street drivability. If drivability wasn't as much of a concern something like 248 intake might work.
As to intake type. All manifolds list the exit port size. All heads list the intake port opening size. That dictates your intake manifold choice. MY AFR 210's use a Team G 7530. My Dart 227 CC uses the motown intake
All my motors use a wood 4 hole spacer to help fuel signal to the downleg boosters and it is the best thermal spacer made.
I personally wanted a 3500 - 7500 rpm power band in my 383. The biggest solid roller that I tried was a 242/248@.050 when I had an auto tranny. It actually was on the upper limits of street drivability. If drivability wasn't as much of a concern something like 248 intake might work.
As to intake type. All manifolds list the exit port size. All heads list the intake port opening size. That dictates your intake manifold choice. MY AFR 210's use a Team G 7530. My Dart 227 CC uses the motown intake
All my motors use a wood 4 hole spacer to help fuel signal to the downleg boosters and it is the best thermal spacer made.
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Are you an engine person? Solid rollers are for the person that knows how to get in and adjust the valves and inspect the roller wheels. You have to understand that they need additional oiling to make the wheel bearing last like high volume oil pumps and 7 quart oil pans. Things like 7/16th ARP rocker studs and stud girdles or even going to the next step of shaft rocker setups. You have to have the best timing chains and it is very wise to buy billet steel cam shafts with sleeved on distributer gears to use common distributers.
Something like this would work with talking to them about getting billet steel.
Xtreme Energy 248/254 Solid Roller Cam for Chevrolet Small Block (compcams.com)
Something like this would work with talking to them about getting billet steel.
Xtreme Energy 248/254 Solid Roller Cam for Chevrolet Small Block (compcams.com)
