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Old Jul 26, 2021 | 04:05 PM
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I would also suggest finding #1 TDC by pulling the driver's side valve cover and watching the #1 push rods as you crank it over. If you are truly on TDC, both valves should be shut and you should be able to spin the push rods between your fingers. If this doesn't line up with your balancer mark, your balancer has slipped. For now, make a new mark and set your initial timing on that.
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Have you pulled a plug to see if its fouled? Also, I had a ford truck slip the timing chain years ago and i got the exact symptons you have......
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Old Jul 26, 2021 | 08:54 PM
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You can do one better with either valve cover off. Bump motor with starter watching either 1 or 6 rockers. Exh just closes and intake just opens right at TDC. So you can eyeball if you are in time quick and easy. So you can tell if cam is in time and if balancer timing mark is in time.

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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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Pulled Distributor cap, and the rotor is off of number 1 cyclinder by just a tad bit. It is in between the wires for number 1 and 8. Would this be the source of the no start?
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 07:52 PM
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I had a distributor once that started to seize up on me. It caused the distributor to turn throwing off the timing enough so it wouldn't start.
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 08:25 PM
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Pulled Distributor cap, and the rotor is off of number 1 cylinder by just a tad bit. It is in between the wires for number 1 and 8. Would this be the source of the no start?
This was not the issue. Still have not found the issue though. I aligned the rotor with number 1 spark wire and still no start.
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 08:34 PM
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Now your timing will be off. Have you confirmed TDC with a finger, or a stop bolt, or any of the other ways?
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Now your timing will be off. Have you confirmed TDC with a finger, or a stop bolt, or any of the other ways?
Confirmed TDC with finger as well as a coat hanger. However I did mark where I changed it from so can change back if needed

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Confirmed TDC with finger as well as a coat hanger. However I did mark where I changed it from so can change back if needed
So you are in the ballpark. Lars has a method in his timing instructions, or you may find it on YouTube. Basically you turn the piston against a hard stop from both directions, and mark the balancer. The center of the two marks will be your TDC. Your piston has to be on the compression stroke (entering, and leaving), which is what the finger test is good for.
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
So you are in the ballpark. Lars has a method in his timing instructions, or you may find it on YouTube. Basically you turn the piston against a hard stop from both directions, and mark the balancer. The center of the two marks will be your TDC. Your piston has to be on the compression stroke (entering, and leaving), which is what the finger test is good for.
Could you send me in the right direction of his YouTube, I did a quick search for “Lars timing how to” and nothing came up. I also searched his profile for link and could not find it
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Originally Posted by Ethan_Hensley
Could you send me in the right direction of his YouTube, I did a quick search for “Lars timing how to” and nothing came up. I also searched his profile for link and could not find it
I mistyped. Lars' instructions are in his instructions (if you haven't emailed him for a copy, you are missing out).

Someone else's how to find TDC instructions should be on YouTube. For example:


I'm not aware of Lars making videos, but I'd watch him if he did!
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
I mistyped. Lars' instructions are in his instructions (if you haven't emailed him for a copy, you are missing out).

Someone else's how to find TDC instructions should be on YouTube. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RENhHI9n65I

I'm not aware of Lars making videos, but I'd watch him if he did!
So I already have TDC so now what do I need?
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Originally Posted by Ethan_Hensley
So I already have TDC so now what do I need?
If you are 100% confident that the TDC mark on your harmonic balancer matches the engine's TDC, set the static initial timing, and fire it up. Make sure the distributor is lined up on the compression stroke. If it still doesn't fire, there must be something else wrong, or your TDC wasn't correct.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 07:28 AM
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pull a valve cover and check the intake and exhaust valves at tdc. when dist is pointed at 6, the exh will be closing as intake is opening right at the tdc mark. IF balancer has not shifted and timing has not jumped any teeth.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan_Hensley
Pulled Distributor cap, and the rotor is off of number 1 cyclinder by just a tad bit. It is in between the wires for number 1 and 8. Would this be the source of the no start?
When the rotor is in this position is the mark on the balancer at “0” TDC? If it is then your timing is ok….the ignition timing and the cam timing are good assuming you have not changed the position yourself prior to….

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Originally Posted by Jebbysan
When the rotor is in this position is the mark on the balancer at “0” TDC? If it is then your timing is ok….the ignition timing and the cam timing are good assuming you have not changed the position yourself prior to….

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Yes mark on balancer is at 0 TDC with rotor aligned at num 1 at 0 TDC
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