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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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Installed a new rear leaf spring, and now have a rubbing. The passenger side is hitting the rim when installed. I have checked all measurements and cannot figure where the problem is. The body is off the frame and not sure how to correct the issue.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Provide some pictures, they are worth a thousand words.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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It's possible that with the body off the spring isn't loaded very well (body, gas tank, etc) and the ends are down lower than normal, AND if the frame is sitting high (compared to when everything is on) then the camber on the wheels will be positive and the bottom could be kicked in
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:15 PM
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Removed wheel to measure, as you can see the right side bolts appear to be out of alignment.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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With the trailing arms unloaded, the suspension is going to be all over the place and the bolts down to the springs will be on some weird angles like you have. Nothing is "correct" until the suspension is at "ride height"
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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This is my first frame off, so thanks for that information. I have been reading books and using the internet and no where is that information.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 09:54 PM
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Ride height is more or less going to put the half-shafts horizontal and that will cause the trailing arms to be pushed outwards as they arc up and since the strut rods on the bottom are fixed lengths but slightly different mounting distances than the half-shafts the camber changes as they move upwards ("smart strut" mounts were lower to try to improve this but at the cost of ground clearance I guess)
Anyway, unless you can pull the arms up towards the frame (some have used ratchet straps I understand) then don't concern yourself too much about things being on weird angles back there, or at least not yet

Here's my bolt at an angle during a spring change with everything hanging




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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 10:22 PM
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Wouldn’t a set of shocks limit travel?
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Only to whatever the maximum shock extension length is. In my image my shocks were on and it's still hanging down a loooog way

The street rod guys frequently make up "shocks" from threaded rod and nuts for the fronts and eyes welded to nuts on the rears so they can set the suspension using these "fixed length shocks" to hold everything where they want it so they can measure and mount spring hangers etc. My one brother uses something similar and I thought about it when doing my rear suspension but then figured it's going to be close enough.
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That spring is under tension. Are the trailing arms limiting the droop or the half shafts? If it is the half shafts, you are stressing the ujoints. Be very careful!
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Are the shipping clamps still on the spring?
I believe you need to remove those.
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Factoid thanks, I was thinking about removing the half shafts until I put the body back on, but not sure how to hold the trailing arms in place?
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Oldcarbum, yes the shipping clamps are still on I haven’t removed them. I was waiting till I got everything into the correct alignment. Not sure the clamps would make any difference?
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Also, don’t torque the four spring to diff bolts until the car is on the ground with a full load on the suspension. You can install the shocks to keep the suspension from full droop or insert a wooden wedge between the lower edge of the trailing arm pocket and the trailing arm to hold it in place.
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You can put small blocks of wood under the arms to take a little of the pressure off the trailing arms.... assuming the pockets in the frame are nice and solid
You just need enough to bring the arms up enough to allow the half shafts to be able to rotate



Or ratchet strap the rear of the arm up to the frame rail

The wheels will still not rotate easily like a normal rear but they should be able to be turned
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