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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 04:29 PM
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I want to replace my original A/C A6 compressor with a new one. Most new units (like Alma for example) have a 5'' pulley diameter.
My original one have a 5.75"pulley. Why there are 2 different types ? What is the technical difference ? I guess maybe a 5.75 is better for high rpms like the LT-1 is capable ?
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 05:22 PM
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That would be my guess as well. Larger diameter to handle higher RPM's. But really who is going to have the A/C on while turning 6500 RPM? It would also reduce the effort required by the engine, perhaps for low RPM (idle) when it's not making much power.
From reading I've done you're better off rebuilding the current compressor vs a replacement. Usually the only thing wrong is the front seal leaks.

I guess maybe a 5.75 is better for high rpms like the LT-1 is capable ?
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My problem is that I had already given my compressor for a rebuild (here in Switzerland) and my clutch is now broken....
I would rather buy a new one instead of trying to fix my clutch and have another problem later!
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The clutch can be replaced without replacing the entire compressor.

rebuild or new A6 compressor quality is questionable. If it were mine I’d just replace the clutch if it’s otherwise functioning normally.
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I think 1972 LT-1 with A/C the Tack red line was 5600 RPM. Non A/C was 6500 RPM.
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Yes, I know that it is possible to change only the clutch. I don't know if the clutch was broken by the compressor... Now, it rotates freely by hand (it is not blocked).
Exact : the LT-1 A/C tach is 5'600 and W/O is 6'500.
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So the redline on an a/c version was specifically restricted due to the a/c compressor, or are there other differences?
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The restriction was only due to the A/C compressor belt and it's likely hood of being thrown at high RPM. If you remove the belt then just like standard LT-1 for RPM.
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My engine can easily go up to 5'500 rpm and I think a bit more is also possible...
And for originalty of LT-1 A/C (which is for me important), I'll stay with a 5.75" pulley id possible.

It is quite difficult to find a new compressor with this pulley...and they cost about $ 600 :-(
Alma seems to be good (with some improvments).
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Originally Posted by PJO
The restriction was only due to the A/C compressor belt and it's likely hood of being thrown at high RPM. If you remove the belt then just like standard LT-1 for RPM.
I guess it depends on belt technology then. I regularly run my 77 up to 6300 RPM and have never thrown the belt off the A/C.
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Unless you're looking for originality I wouldn't worry about the diameter of the pulley and just don't run the A/C when reving it high.

Like I said run mine to 6300, no problems. I don't have the A/C running when I do it though. Originally a 5200-5250 redline motor in the 77. Never changed the A/C compressor, still a stock unit.
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My understanding is that the AC compressors for Corvettes was modified by dishing the A6 pistons to produce a lower compression ratio. This slightly reduced their cooling capacity and parasitic drag.

The A6 compressors used a wobble plate...three pistons on one side of the wobble plate and three matching on the other side. Correct? The Germans before wwII built a wobble plate aircraft engine. It is, or was, on display at the Air Force museum in Dayton, Ohio.
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I agree that the belt tech is important : I had AC Delco belts previously and they jumped off the pulleys very easily. With now Dayco belts, no problems anymore !
6'300 rpm with 5'' pulley, I assume ? Good to know because I don't go until that (maybe 5'500 rpm ?). This means I would be able to buy a new Alma compressor with a good price.
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Originally Posted by chris383
I agree that the belt tech is important : I had AC Delco belts previously and they jumped off the pulleys very easily. With now Dayco belts, no problems anymore !
6'300 rpm with 5'' pulley, I assume ? Good to know because I don't go until that (maybe 5'500 rpm ?). This means I would be able to buy a new Alma compressor with a good price.
Sure whatever the stock v belt pulley size is on the R4 compressor for the 77. It's just not anything specific for high RPM is all I'm saying. I can also tell you to not buy a gates belt either. It's too stretchy and will fly off at high RPM.
I'm using Bando brand belts and have never had any issues with them at all, durable and last a long time.

This is the exact one I have now.
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Thank you for the information : I didn't know this brand of belts.
$i think now the best solution for me is to buy a new Alma compressor with a 5'' pulley.
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Originally Posted by chris383
I agree that the belt tech is important : I had AC Delco belts previously and they jumped off the pulleys very easily. With now Dayco belts, no problems anymore !
6'300 rpm with 5'' pulley, I assume ? Good to know because I don't go until that (maybe 5'500 rpm ?). This means I would be able to buy a new Alma compressor with a good price.
isn't there a wot switch on accelerator or is that on newer cars ?
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Originally Posted by novadoug
isn't there a wot switch on accelerator or is that on newer cars ?
Belt and pulley is still gonna spin the RPM, that WOT switch on newer vehicles disengages the compressor.
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