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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 12:43 PM
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I’ve been thinking about doing this for about a year now, so I finally decided to go forward with it. The car will be upgraded to 13” or 14” rotors and I’ll be getting it down to 3000lbs, so not worried about pedal effort. I was tired of a squishy pedal and didn’t want hydro boost because it will be tracked in the future. So far the hardest part has been finding an adapter to mount the Wilwood master cylinder. I still need to bleed the MC and brakes as well as get a clevis to attach the pedal to the master cylinder pushrod but in terms of pushrod length it’s almost an exact length from the factory vacuum booster.
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Good move. I replaced the power brake system on my 77 with a pure factory manual brake system, and I love it. The brake feel is now excellent, and the car stops just as well as it did before. Frankly....I was shocked how little difference there is in terms of force required.
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Good job on the pics! I had to buy a clevis that had the wrong internal threads....I re-drilled and re-threaded the clevis rather than searching for a clevis that had the correct threads....(to save time).
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I messed with my 68 manual brakes to get them correct. One of the things that made a huge difference was the match between the brake pedal and the MC. First make sure the rod is connected to the brake pedal in the correct hole for manual brakes,,,,,, upper hole,,,,, = more leverage. Then make sure the rod doesn't have any play as it contacts the MC. Even 1/32 of an inch makes a huge difference. There is a number, but I just made sure the gap was 0.

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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 11:13 PM
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Yes, Thank you. Wilwood’s instructions stressed correct pedal to pushrod length.
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Old Jan 1, 2022 | 06:25 AM
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One other thing to consider-

If you are going to move up to 13-14" rotors big brake kit- you need to look at dropping the Master cylinder bore to 7/8s (rather than 1" stock) for manual brakes

For reference for the pedal leverage -here's the pedal set of for manual(left) and power(right)







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I drove my 66 for years with a manual single reservoir MC and never had a problem stopping.
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^Why is this relevant?^

Definitely use the 7/8” bore MC. I used this kit as the starting point for the clevis.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wil-330-13914

I went with the 14” rotors and the brakes are excellent.
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Thanks for the feedback. Yep, bought the 7/8” MC. Just picked up the clevis and hardware. Now just need to wait out this cold spell to wrap it up.
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Where did you get the aluminum adapter?
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I got it from Speedway Motors.
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Originally Posted by Factoid
^Why is this relevant?^
If you were referring to my statement about a manual single reservoir MC my point was you don't need power brakes.
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Well, got it on and it’s definitely easier to take one off than to put one on. The brake feel is very firm. No more squishy!! My corvette is currently missing its engine so won’t be able to take it for a test drive at this point.
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Now you are prepared to take on Louisiana traffik !
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Now for the Borgeson steering box.
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Now for the Borgeson steering box.
Yep, that’s on the list.
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Originally Posted by JC 1975
Yep, that’s on the list.
Or, manual steering, to match the brakes.

If I were building an Auto-X car, I would 100% go with a Borgeson. For cruising in the hills of Virginia, my manual-steering converted 80 does just fine. Just don't try to parallel park.
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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It will be tracked. I have manual steering now with the stock slow(er) steering box and it’s a pain at slow speeds. I can’t imagine how hard it would be @ a 12 or 10:1 ratio. Actually, electric assist would help. From my experience finding a fast ratio manual steering box for a C3 would have to be custom and very expensive. I’ve seen a few @ $2,200 for just the steering box.
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Originally Posted by JC 1975
I got it from Speedway Motors.
can you link us ? I’d like to do this on my 1980.

did the stock lines work? I am assuming just a slight rebend? Or did you buy manual brake steering lines ???
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Where did you get that aluminum adapter plate?
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