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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 01:49 PM
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I have an 81 C3 and did not have a sensor for oil temp while i have the gauge in the cluster. Wanted to add the oil temp sensor in the port just above the oil filter but cannot open the plug for it. Garage mechanic tried to get it loose but suggested not to try further not to damage the engine. He suggested to add it to the port where the oil pressure sensor is located.

Has anyone done this before? Looks like i would need a t-fitting?
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Hi,

I have an 81 C3 and did not have a sensor for oil temp while i have the gauge in the cluster. Wanted to add the oil temp sensor in the port just above the oil filter but cannot open the plug for it. Garage mechanic tried to get it loose but suggested not to try further not to damage the engine. He suggested to add it to the port where the oil pressure sensor is located.

Has anyone done this before? Looks like i would need a t-fitting?
Is the wire still there?
are you sure the plug is not the old sensor broke off?

Drill and use an ez-out?

pic?
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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What kind of instrumentation do you have that has an oil temp gauge? Didn’t know any Corvettes had them. Seems odd for a liquid cooled engine.
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it is stock. clock went digital on the radio.
sensor is around oil filter housing
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 08:49 AM
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81-82 cars had them, and it's a common mod for 77-80 to replace the useless clock. Zip basically sells a kit.

https://www.zip-corvette.com/81-82-o...ding-unit.html

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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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Here's the photo guys. Wire is still there!
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Originally Posted by calwldlife
it is stock. clock went digital on the radio.
sensor is around oil filter housing
Cool. I learned something today. I was not aware that GM put an oil temp gauge in the Corvette. Still seems a little useless in a liquid cooled motor. Sounds like they were just looking for something to fill the hole.
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Originally Posted by drwet
Cool. I learned something today. I was not aware that GM put an oil temp gauge in the Corvette. Still seems a little useless in a liquid cooled motor. Sounds like they were just looking for something to fill the hole.
I like my oil temp gauge.
Tells me when oil is able to get rid of moisture and when engine is warmed up.

And it does sound like fill the hole was the idea.
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One thing the oil gauge showed me was how synthetic oil runs hotter than conventional.

Kind of tweeks my head thinking about it.
I would think syn would be less friction thus less temp?
All I can surmise is syn runs hotter because it
causes the friction/heat to be in the oil and not on parts?
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So has someone used the same port for this sensor as where the oil pressure sensor is? Is there a t fitting I could order for that? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by calwldlife
One thing the oil gauge showed me was how synthetic oil runs hotter than conventional.

Kind of tweeks my head thinking about it.
I would think syn would be less friction thus less temp?
All I can surmise is syn runs hotter because it
causes the friction/heat to be in the oil and not on parts?
One of the main functions of the oil is to cool the engine. Do you suppose synthetic oil absorbs heat from the engine better? How much hotter?
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noticeable
at least 25 deg f for average driving
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Originally Posted by calwldlife
One thing the oil gauge showed me was how synthetic oil runs hotter than conventional.

Kind of tweeks my head thinking about it.
I would think syn would be less friction thus less temp?
All I can surmise is syn runs hotter because it
causes the friction/heat to be in the oil and not on parts?
That is interesting. Is the water temp lower, higher?

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Originally Posted by REELAV8R
That is interesting. Is the water temp lower, higher?
that is harder to say.
I want to say positively but can only say I think so.
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Oil temp guage was added just to fill a hole. You could just replace it with a clock or tee into the oil pressure sensor hole with some fittings from the hardware store.

If your block is not the original one, that plug by the filter will be very hard to remove. It can be removed by heating it up with an oxy acetylene torch until it is dull red hot and spraying it with PB Blaster. It will almost back itself out after that. Propane is not hot enough and WD-40 does not work well for this.
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I didn’t know any c3’s had this gauge either. I took my useless clock out and now have a much more useful afr gauge in its place.
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This is where I put the oil temperature sensor on my 71' . Before it was closed with an allen plug. But as You know the oil pressure line goes out close to where the distributor mounts on the back of the gen1 sb.
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To answer your question, the temp gauge won't work right with the sensor tee'd in, it needs to be in the flow of oil to pick up the temp correctly. I believe the port up top is 1/8 npt and the temp sensor is 1/4 npt.
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Originally Posted by stingr69
Oil temp guage was added just to fill a hole. You could just replace it with a clock or tee into the oil pressure sensor hole with some fittings from the hardware store.

If your block is not the original one, that plug by the filter will be very hard to remove. It can be removed by heating it up with an oxy acetylene torch until it is dull red hot and spraying it with PB Blaster. It will almost back itself out after that. Propane is not hot enough and WD-40 does not work well for this.
It is not an original block indeed. In that case i am not even going to try further. Another poster suggested it could not be tee'd into the oil pressure port which would be a shame. I guess the other alternative is to get rid of it and replace it with a clock. Too bad as i wanted to keep it as original as possible
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It might not original or ideal to install an oil temp sender to a different place on the block but, it would at least "function" if you attached it to a tee fitting at the oil pressure sensor connection.
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