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Old May 4, 2022 | 08:53 PM
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or do you call them "freeze" plugs over there?
either way it's where the core casting hole is under the engine mount that's plugged with the brass disk that's leaking on a club members car, a '77.
he asked me last night how hard would it be to replace whilst engine is still in car?

support engine sump, remove mount and ??????
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You may have to pull the exhaust on that side as well, both sides if you want to rock it towards the passenger side. Loosen the transmission mount as well I would suggest an engine crane and pull up on that side of the motor from the frnat and rear of the heads. If you can knock in the bottom then grab the top you should be able to pull it out.
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Asked and answered. R. Roges types faster than I do.
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If the 77 has factory exhaust, I don't think you will need to pull the exhaust. If the freeze plug in question is right behind the motor mount, the exhaust is to the rear of that location. None the less pulling the exhaust would give you more room to work.
I would put a block of wood on the rear of oil pan slightly to the offending side. Jack it with a floor jack just enough to get the weight off of that motor mount, remove motor mount completely. you should have access to the plug. drilling a small hole in it off center and screwing in a tec screw or sheet metal screw will give you something to grab and pull to remove old plug. very tight in there but can be done.
I think you know the rest.
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I changed that plug in my 68. Engine in car.

jack engine up by sump with that bolt removed. Remove motor mount completely. After I got the plug out I couldn’t get a good hit on new plug to knock it in. I drilled holes in a piece of 1/4” steel to match motor mount pattern and pressed it in that way. No leaks 4 years later
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Originally Posted by Tiger Joe
After I got the plug out I couldn’t get a good hit on new plug to knock it in.
That's my concern - how can you get enough force to drive it in if you don't have nearby engine mount holes? I suppose if you could get a pneumatic impact hammer in there or maybe even a palm nailer with a plate over the plug to distribute the force, it may work.
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thanks for the quick replies, i'll pass the info on to him.

Originally Posted by Tiger Joe
After I got the plug out I couldn’t get a good hit on new plug to knock it in. I drilled holes in a piece of 1/4” steel to match motor mount pattern and pressed it in that way.
i like this idea, sounds like a good plan.

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