Off Topic - Volvo rant...
Thread Starter
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,427
Likes: 1
From: Boxford Mass
Off Topic - Volvo rant...
My daily driver is 99 Volvo. More parts have been changed on this piece of junk than my 30 year old Corvette.
So now its burning oil. Like to the tune of 10 quarts in 20k miles. The car only has 80k miles on it. I bring it to the dealer. They say "Well, thats a little high. Volve allows .7 quarts per 1000 miles."
I say, "Well if you recommend changing oil every 7500 miles, there will be none left at that rate."
He says, "Just keep topping it off until you have to change it."
I say, "Why change it if I just put it in?"
Then he calls me "difficult" and gets his manager. Obviously no progress is made from this point.
I guess its time to go buy Camry or something.
So now its burning oil. Like to the tune of 10 quarts in 20k miles. The car only has 80k miles on it. I bring it to the dealer. They say "Well, thats a little high. Volve allows .7 quarts per 1000 miles."
I say, "Well if you recommend changing oil every 7500 miles, there will be none left at that rate."
He says, "Just keep topping it off until you have to change it."
I say, "Why change it if I just put it in?"
Then he calls me "difficult" and gets his manager. Obviously no progress is made from this point.
I guess its time to go buy Camry or something.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,456
Likes: 2
From: Coming home from Luckenbach Texas
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
Buy a Chevy. Foreign cars are overrated and overpriced! And the dealers tend to be arrogant...
And yes, I've owned foreign cars, but now I have a Jeep, a Ford ... and a Chevy! :flag
[Modified by page62, 3:42 PM 1/10/2003]
And yes, I've owned foreign cars, but now I have a Jeep, a Ford ... and a Chevy! :flag
[Modified by page62, 3:42 PM 1/10/2003]
Team Owner
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 43,136
Likes: 155
From: Thomson Georgia
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (page62)
I like Foreign even Swedish cars and I like them My Saab 900 turbo vert has been a great car (had it since it was new in 94)and the dealer service Especially while under warranty was Phenomenol...No problems whatsoever
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 0
From: Ajax Ontario
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (Alwyn678)
I had two Volvo's, both new, the latter being a '96 850 wagon (now the V70). Very solid, but servicing costs, small dealer network and high price vs competition would keep me from buying another one. Presently drive a 2000 4Runner (way better and cheaper than the Volvo). Also recommend many domestic cars/trucks. Domestics have come a long way in both quality and value. My brother swears by his Mercedes sport ute because "it's built in Germany". He knows little about cars beyond the emblem (status junkie). He turned pale when I informed him that my (then) Jeep and his Merc. were built by the same company in the same country, that being the USA!
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 26,545
Likes: 46
From: Huntersville NC
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
He says, "Just keep topping it off until you have to change it."
I say, "Why change it if I just put it in?"
I say, "Why change it if I just put it in?"
So you pick your car up and they have installed one of those IV bag drip things that keeps your oil topped off while you drive! :)
We have a 92 volvo 740 wagon with only 95k miles. Car has been ok, but recently developed an intermittent stall. Can be fine for a week or more, but then will stall while under power! Very disconcerting, and nearly impossible to diagnose, because it is intermittent. In a way, car is actually unsafe to drive, but if problem was found car would be fine... :banghead:
MJ
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,456
Likes: 2
From: Coming home from Luckenbach Texas
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (MNJack)
Your stall could very likely be the fuel pump (been there, done that). But wait till you find out how much it's gonna cost to replace!!!
Safety Car
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 4,101
Likes: 10
From: NorCal
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
It took me 20 years to get my dad out of Volvos. They were decent cars, but they needed regular infusions of gold plated parts that came (slowly) from a frozen wasteland by sled dog! Now he drives Subarus, as well as my mother-in-law, my wife and her sister. As the resident mechanic, my life is much easier. Legacys rule, baby!
Hans
Hans
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter
Joe Kucinski
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)
Joe Kucinski
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!
Brett Foote
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know
Joe Kucinski
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2
Michael S. Palmer
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor
Joe Kucinski
Team Owner
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 65,981
Likes: 15
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
I have a 1990 Volvo 740. GREAT DAILY DRIVER. Over 250,000 miles. I had to replace the clutch and timing chain at 200,000 miles. Burns no oil. I still drive it simply because I wonder if it will outlive me. I have heard the newer Volvo are getting a little too fancy. Thus, I suspected that they would be more troublesome.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 495
Likes: 9
From: Galena OH
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
That is horrible. My wife has a 97 850 with about 56000 miles on it. We bought the car new and the only problem we had with it was a bad alternator during the first 5000 miles. We called the auto club that came with the car and they towed it on a flatbed to the dealer. I agree with you, there is something wrong with yours. That is a shame, I hope we dont have problems similar to yours. Did you buy yours new?
[Modified by Cool427shark, 6:14 PM 1/10/2003]
[Modified by Cool427shark, 6:14 PM 1/10/2003]
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 3,030
Likes: 17
From: White Pine / Dandridge TN
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (BB wowbagger)
I've got a 95 960 with 98,000. I bought it with about 70,000 on it and have had very little problems. I have found the parts to be expensive but most newer cars cost more in parts. Heck my 99 Grand Cherokee had 2 power door lock actuators fail at 50,000 miles. Each actuator was $75.00 :eek: I still think an average Volvo will out live most USA made cars. With that being said I have always owned American made cars and still argue with my buddy who only drive BMW, Mercedes, Porshe type cars. I tell him yes they are better built but cost 2x what an American car will cost. My next car is a Cadillac STS :steering:
P.S A good Volvo only website is http://www.brickboard.com. You can see if others are having this problem and what resolution they have found.
[Modified by Frankenvette, 7:52 AM 1/11/2003]
P.S A good Volvo only website is http://www.brickboard.com. You can see if others are having this problem and what resolution they have found.
[Modified by Frankenvette, 7:52 AM 1/11/2003]
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 8,220
Likes: 208
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
I've owned many German cars, Bimmers, WV's, Mercs. I really like the quality you get with them. Have you ever thought about gettting a WV Passat with V6 or even W8? Great value for the money. Don't buy Camry!!!! :nono: :lol:
Racer
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
From: Crofton MD
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (Frankenvette)
Brickboard is a good site for Volvo help. My first Volvo had 250,000 miles on it when I sold it and the only thning I replaced was a water pump, my 95, 960 has 130,000 miles but the timing belt tensioner came off and I bent 18 valves about a month ago. I was out of state and towed to a dealer, it was $3000 for a rebuilt head and other things. The car has never burned more then 1/2 qt of oil every 5000 miles.
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 26,545
Likes: 46
From: Huntersville NC
parts website for volvo owners
Volvo owners!! Check out this website for parts. "Nonsupporting" but nonompeting :lol: vendor. Lets see if I can post the link. They are very good. I placed one order and the customer service was excellent and shipping prompt. :)
http://www.volvopartsdirect.com/
http://www.volvopartsdirect.com/
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 65,492
Likes: 230
From: Orange Park Florida
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
Over the decades, foreign badges really don't show me much....
rust is a problem for them too....Volvo is a 6 year car on Long Island....
most of them are unibody construction...I seen too much of that type construction with the lifespan of a Dodge Dart.....fine in the desert...but rust bombs otherwise....less than ten years, anyway....
VW fell apart with the Schirocco series car...engines blew more oil than gas...
same with Civic....
parts are outlandish, stupid alternators cast 400 bux...typically....
BMW/Mercedes have the worst seats in the pack...Volvo is good on that account....
I would NOT have 4WD from any source....just give me RWD and posi...be done with it...learn how to drive....
I did own a volvo 4 cyl 2100cc boat with I/O once....damn thing responded well to DPFE conversion...ran it with a GM computer....doubled my fuel economy....ran an entire day on a tankful....instead of having to stop at noon....
GENE
rust is a problem for them too....Volvo is a 6 year car on Long Island....
most of them are unibody construction...I seen too much of that type construction with the lifespan of a Dodge Dart.....fine in the desert...but rust bombs otherwise....less than ten years, anyway....
VW fell apart with the Schirocco series car...engines blew more oil than gas...
same with Civic....
parts are outlandish, stupid alternators cast 400 bux...typically....
BMW/Mercedes have the worst seats in the pack...Volvo is good on that account....
I would NOT have 4WD from any source....just give me RWD and posi...be done with it...learn how to drive....
I did own a volvo 4 cyl 2100cc boat with I/O once....damn thing responded well to DPFE conversion...ran it with a GM computer....doubled my fuel economy....ran an entire day on a tankful....instead of having to stop at noon....
GENE
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 1
From: Sodertalje/Sweden
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (mrvette)
Maybe you Volvo owners should send after spareparts from Sweden as we do for our american cars.
:cheers: :cheers:
The Volvos and Saabs are really popular to mod here in Sweden.Theres a Volvo 850 that does the 1/4 in high 11`s..FWD.Not bad for a Volvo :lol:
:cheers: :cheers:
The Volvos and Saabs are really popular to mod here in Sweden.Theres a Volvo 850 that does the 1/4 in high 11`s..FWD.Not bad for a Volvo :lol:
Race Director
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 16,221
Likes: 118
From: Matthews NC
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (67HEAVEN)
:D
Instructor
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
From: Yorktown Va Usa
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (74jack)
I had a740 volvo with the b230 engine .If the flame trap gets clogged that puppy would blow the valve seals .clean or replace your flame trap .ps put 195000 miles on it used i qt bewtween 3000 mile changes.
Thread Starter
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,427
Likes: 1
From: Boxford Mass
Re: Off Topic - Volvo rant... (hiyosilver)
Brought it to another dealer... they determined it was a clogged filter (not the screw-on one, but something else up around the intake manifold) that was causing an increased pressure. The gasket on the oil housing blew.
Overall, probably a $700 job. Needs a compression test too just to check the valve seals are still ok.
Damn, this is going to slow progress on the 400SBC project. :rant:
Overall, probably a $700 job. Needs a compression test too just to check the valve seals are still ok.
Damn, this is going to slow progress on the 400SBC project. :rant: