Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
What color are you gfoing to paint your car?
Thanks Glenn, right now I'm torn between black, silver and electron blue. Probably won't deside until I order the paint.
If you are taking votes Dave....I vote for BLACK!! :thumbs:
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (MassVette)
Hey Mike, good to be back. There for a while I didn't think I had a chance at finishing this thing. When I need inspiration I just look at your 502 and remember what started me on the trek. :cheers:
71coupe - Thanks, I think it'll turn out okay. I want everything on the car just a little exagerated, but with one hand holding on to the true vintage look and feel. I do love the way the 15's look "meaty" in the spokes, and the BFG's fill the flares. :yesnod:
Believe it or not Deb, the final color selection may just come down to a vote. If you remember, my car was originally going to be a "flag" car. After 9/11 there were just too many of them. I'll still find a way to make a patriotic statement, but not as originally planned. I am definately open to suggestions.
Well the company has finally left so I'll glass in the flare tomorrow.
Dave
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71coupe - Thanks, I think it'll turn out okay. I want everything on the car just a little exagerated, but with one hand holding on to the true vintage look and feel. I do love the way the 15's look "meaty" in the spokes, and the BFG's fill the flares. :yesnod:
Believe it or not Deb, the final color selection may just come down to a vote. If you remember, my car was originally going to be a "flag" car. After 9/11 there were just too many of them. I'll still find a way to make a patriotic statement, but not as originally planned. I am definately open to suggestions.
Well the company has finally left so I'll glass in the flare tomorrow.
Dave
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Believe it or not Deb, the final color selection may just come down to a vote. If you remember, my car was originally going to be a "flag" car. After 9/11 there were just too many of them. I'll still find a way to make a patriotic statement, but not as originally planned. I am definately open to suggestions.
Well the company has finally left so I'll glass in the flare tomorrow.
Well the company has finally left so I'll glass in the flare tomorrow.
OH good! another POLL! :rolleyes: :D
Make sure you take pics!!! :yesnod:
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (LakotasRose)
It's been slow going today, between working in the garage and getting rid of snow, so here are the results from the garage. No, there won't be any incriminating evidence on the snow shoveling. :jester
Here everything is ready for the first layers of glass. Holding the contour of the flare required that clamps remain in place and only allowed for small sections of the splice to be done at one time. This also allowed some stress relieving as the repair was made. You can see that I have ground a bed for the glass layers, tapering the existing glass down to nothing at the edge and removing the gelcoat about 1" either side of the gash.
More to come, Momma says time to eat....
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 6:02 PM 1/16/2003]
Here everything is ready for the first layers of glass. Holding the contour of the flare required that clamps remain in place and only allowed for small sections of the splice to be done at one time. This also allowed some stress relieving as the repair was made. You can see that I have ground a bed for the glass layers, tapering the existing glass down to nothing at the edge and removing the gelcoat about 1" either side of the gash.
More to come, Momma says time to eat....
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 6:02 PM 1/16/2003]
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
As I'm able to remove clamps and hardware, I prep the next section for glass...
Here you can see the contour match at the top of the well. To me that was the most critical part of the task.
Keep in mind that this phase is about shape, not strength or surface finish.
You can see a short overlap area where the first section adjoins the second. These will be ground uniform before the top layers go on.
All covered, except for the cut through the face of the well flange that allowed the for excess cutoff. I was surprised that I only had to remove about 1/2" in the length of the relocated wheel flange. That by the way, is why this had to be worked from one end of the seam to the other as opposed to starting at the top of the well and working down both sides.
So much for the first three layers. Next, the surface will be sanded to determine how much more glass and resin is needed to get a smooth finish. Then there will be 3 layers applied from the underneath for strength and cushion from stone pecks.
Callin' it a day... :seeya
Dave
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 6:44 PM 1/16/2003]
Here you can see the contour match at the top of the well. To me that was the most critical part of the task.
Keep in mind that this phase is about shape, not strength or surface finish.
You can see a short overlap area where the first section adjoins the second. These will be ground uniform before the top layers go on.
All covered, except for the cut through the face of the well flange that allowed the for excess cutoff. I was surprised that I only had to remove about 1/2" in the length of the relocated wheel flange. That by the way, is why this had to be worked from one end of the seam to the other as opposed to starting at the top of the well and working down both sides.
So much for the first three layers. Next, the surface will be sanded to determine how much more glass and resin is needed to get a smooth finish. Then there will be 3 layers applied from the underneath for strength and cushion from stone pecks.
Callin' it a day... :seeya
Dave
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 6:44 PM 1/16/2003]
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (67HEAVEN)
Thanks 67, just cranked up the heater in the garage (13 degrees outside, brrrr) and waitin' for it to warm everything up. Hope to get the outside rough sanded and final 2 layers of glass build up on. But first... more coffee! :yesnod:
Dave
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Good morning Dave! Looks very good! After looking at the photos above, I looked at your original pics you sent me. It looks like you located the flare properly. I've seen sooooo many that look like the flare was slid back about 1"-2" too far and the wheel and tire don't end up centered.
Very nice work and great pictures for others who are preparing to do there first fiberglass work.
You have a good day. And would you believe it was 21 degrees in DFW this morning? Brrrrrrrr is right.
[Modified by 74-Roadster, 8:15 AM 1/17/2003]
Very nice work and great pictures for others who are preparing to do there first fiberglass work.
You have a good day. And would you believe it was 21 degrees in DFW this morning? Brrrrrrrr is right.
[Modified by 74-Roadster, 8:15 AM 1/17/2003]
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Dave, it's looking really good as usual :thumbs: . Your making some good progress !
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Dave, it is a real pleasure to see your work, you are a craftsman and an artist! More pics as you continue. I hope you are keeping all your pictures and notes, you could publish a pretty nice how-to book with them after Rolling Thunder is finished.
Let me know if you need any help putting one together after it is all over. I'm not much with Fiberglass, but I can write like a *****! :D
Let me know if you need any help putting one together after it is all over. I'm not much with Fiberglass, but I can write like a *****! :D
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (74-Roadster)
Good morning Dave! Looks very good! After looking at the photos above, I looked at your original pics you sent me. It looks like you located the flare properly. I've seen sooooo many that look like the flare was slid back about 1"-2" too far and the wheel and tire don't end up centered.
DFW 21 degrees? Man that's just not right. :lol:
Mike - Gotta keep this thing going, I really want to to be :auto: by time to go to BG. You may as well start convincing AMY that you're coming back this year. :cheers:
Steve - Thanks Buddy, but let's wait to see this thing with paint on it. I might be more qualified by then to do do a "How not to" :banghead: book. :lol: Seriously, I am trying to document the project, but it pales in comparison to some of the fantastic cars on this sight. Mine is the poor boy version of projects. :)
Time to go check the temp in the garage. :seeya
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Here is the flare after some sanding. This is the time to remember that half of the fiberglass you put on has to come back off. Believe me, it's a lot easier and less messy to put on than it is to sand off. :smash: The initial goal is to bring it all down to the level of the gelcoat on either side of the cut. When it gets there, any craters remaining will be filled with more fiberglass. My rule of thumb is: if it looks like you could finish it with a little bondo, DON'T. Put more glass on instead. :smash:
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 11:12 AM 1/17/2003]
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 11:12 AM 1/17/2003]
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Wow dave - moving fast on those.
I know what you mean about the heater.
You pretty much have to plan on working several hours ahead - so the
garage can get warm enough.
So, you are close to getting it all levelled off. What do you put over the rough
sanded fiberglass ? skim coat of panel adhesive, bondo, or Eckler's gel coat ?
maybe just a coat of sealer/primer ?
:seeya
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (NHvette)
So, you are close to getting it all levelled off. What do you put over the rough
sanded fiberglass ? skim coat of panel adhesive, bondo, or Eckler's gel coat ?
maybe just a coat of sealer/primer ?
sanded fiberglass ? skim coat of panel adhesive, bondo, or Eckler's gel coat ?
maybe just a coat of sealer/primer ?
[Modified by Rolling Thunder, 1:51 PM 1/17/2003]
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Dave, Looking very good.
Do you have a homemade plastic booth around the car? And do you wear a carbon filter mask and goggles or something special?
Do you have a homemade plastic booth around the car? And do you wear a carbon filter mask and goggles or something special?
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (74-Roadster)
Glenn - I did rig up a plastic tent on the side I'm working on. This time of year there is enough static cling in the plastic to catch a majority of the dust. If not, just spray a little water (squirt bottle) on the plastic. I use a 3M mask with P95 filters, and I squint alot. :lolg:
Darkness - Yes I do, and thanks! :cheers:
Deb - Tell Jim I could use some help and that my garage is warm! :lol:
Back to makin' dust.....
Darkness - Yes I do, and thanks! :cheers:
Deb - Tell Jim I could use some help and that my garage is warm! :lol:
Back to makin' dust.....
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Re: Oops.... gotta cut the ZL-1 flares off.... but (Rolling Thunder)
Okay guys, Momma says I've eaten enough dust for one day (and I ALWAYS listen to her :D ). Still need to take a little more off and then fiberglass the last little section on the front side. It doesn't appear that I will have much to fill in way of craters, so this side should wrap up tomorrow. These three pictures should give you a pretty good idea of how it's going to turn out.