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The issue: My car will turn over, but it will not fire up.
Scenario that lead up to this. My car is garage kept, but one day I had to park it in the driveway, but there was a bad rain storm. I normally don’t shut my hood, but it is almost closed all the way. (Just not latched all the way down).
After the rain storm (5-7 days), I was able to drive my car, but it was running a little rough. When I approach a stop sign it would stall, so I had to rev up the engine just a tad to keep it from stalling. I tried a week later to start the car, and it would not fire up. It would turn over as if it wanted to start, but it didn’t. Any thoughts about what could be the issue.
1st thing I'd do is to isolate to either a spark or fuel problem.
For spark, a cheap FLAPS spark tester is very helpful when troubleshooting spark issues. If no spark at the plugs the HEI may have gotten wet or blown a fuse.Pull the distributor cap and make sure it's high & dry in there.
For fuel remove the air cleaner so you can peer down the primary side of your carb (with a screwdriver, clothes pin or something similar to hold the choke wide open) then work the throttle linkage to wide open throttle and observe is you see a squirt of fuel down in the carbs throat. If no fuel squirt you could be out of gas, clogged fuel filter, bad fuel pump etc... Course these problems would be the result of coincidence than the rain. Altho rain may have gotten down into the carb & intake so pulling the plugs and drying them out may be necessary.
Good luck.
Well, he drove it after the rain. It ran less than great and didn't wish to idle.
I would run through a standard tune up first. Plugs, cap, rotor and ign. timing first. Then if it starts carb adjustment. And go from there.
On changing the plugs observe the color and condition of the plugs. These can tell you heaps!
I didn’t see coming through, so I poured a little gas in the carburetor and it started right up, but it quickly stalled when the gas was used.
About 500-1000 miles ago, I replaced the fuel tank and fuel sending unit because the tank leaked and the fuel sending unit wasn’t registering the amount of gas. Both are new. I can replace it again, but before I do, is there a fuse that runs the pump? I will definitely look for the filter and see about changing it.
I didn’t see coming through, so I poured a little gas in the carburetor and it started right up, but it quickly stalled when the gas was used.
About 500-1000 miles ago, I replaced the fuel tank and fuel sending unit because the tank leaked and the fuel sending unit wasn’t registering the amount of gas. Both are new. I can replace it again, but before I do, is there a fuse that runs the pump? I will definitely look for the filter and see about changing it.
assuming you have a stock/standard small block 350, the fuel pump is mechanical.
Yes the air cleaner was on. The previous owner replaced the carburetor, so I am not sure if the fuel filter was replaced, but I would have assumed so. It just seemed so coincidental that this is occurring right after the storm. I put gas in the tank not too long ago, so it has gas and the tank registers 1/2 a tank. With a new tank, I don’t see how water could have got inside the tank. I am baffled.
That brings up another question. The area surrounding the gas tank fill has a drain. It assures that rain or car wash water does not enter the tank via under the gas cap.
The drain for that fill port is a rubber hose coming off to the side then down towards the ground. Make sure its not plugged with crap.
Lift the gas tank door and pour a glass of water around the gas cap. The water should drain as fast as you pour. Does yours?
I didn’t see coming through, so I poured a little gas in the carburetor and it started right up, but it quickly stalled when the gas was used.
Originally Posted by HeadsU.P.
You have already answered your own question.
You poured gas in the carb, it started. So, the IGN is fine.
With the air cleaner lid off and the choke plate held open do you get strong squirts inside the carb when pulling back on the accelerator cable? If not, look at the lower, front passenger side of the engine, do you see a mechanical fuel pump bolted to the engine? Could you have an electric pump installed that isn't working?
So I believe I may have isolated the problem. I pulled the gas line away from the carburetor and disconnected the positive lead to the distributor. The fuel pump pushes out fuel into a container, so it appears to be working just fine. The first time I did this, the fuel was yellow, and had some sort of floaters in it. I assume this may have clogged the filter or caused fuel from flowing into the carburetor.
I bought a new filter and I cleaned out about a gallon of gas from the line in the tank.
I put everything back with a new filter and fuel does not flow into the carburetor. I can pour gas directly into it, and it will start up.
I assume I may have clogged something in the carburetor. Is there an easy way to clean it out with it being on the car? Can I use a carburetor cleaner or try to blow air through the system?
... the fuel was yellow, and had some sort of floaters in it. I assume this may have clogged the filter or caused fuel from flowing into the carburetor.
I assume I may have clogged something in the carburetor. Is there an easy way to clean it out with it being on the car? Can I use a carburetor cleaner or try to blow air through the system?
The yellow floater fuel is more than likely the problem. As Calwldlife commented, you may have a second filter in the carb where the fuel inlet connects. Lastly, your fuel "sock" (filter) in the tank at the sending unit may have disintegrated or come off the fuel pickup tube. The floaters could be part of the sock or just debris, but either way, I'm pretty sure the floaters started the journey from the tank. A working sock filter should catch just about anything bigger than the tiniest of specks.
What brand/model carb do you have? (Stock was Rochester Quadra-jet.) The carb's design will tend to dictate best ways to flush it.
It was the old Rochester but previous owner changed it to a QuadrJet?
I am not sure if it was the right thing to do but I think it’s beginning to work.
After changing the filter in the carburetor and trying to clean it out with a carburetor cleaner, my car did not work.
I took my air compressor and shot air through the line with the filter still in place. It’s not a very high psi compressor. I felt the air go through the carburetor. After this ran rough for 30 to 45 seconds, and now it is purring like a kitten.
I hope this is not temporary, and I dislodged whatever was clogging the system.