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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 04:15 PM
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Hi everyone!

i am watching an auction an BaT and the vette in question has been through an engine rebuild. Before the rebuild the choke was removed. Sadly, after the rebuild, the choke was not added back to the engine.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...e-38/#comments

The seller says that the Vette will start with some starter fluid.

What is the reason behind removing the choke in the first place? The car looks very nice, but the missing choke and the low hanging exhaust pipes in the back have me puzzled.

Is fixing a missing choke an expensive thing or relatively minor?

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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 04:28 PM
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It's not expensive to replace the choke spring, cover, and linkage as long as the current carb has the butterfly and its own linkage.
The exhaust could probably be adjusted to not hang as low.

There's a lot to undo on that car.
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 04:55 PM
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Auction just ended with reserve not met @ $30500
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 05:41 PM
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If the car had it's original intake manifold and carburetor the total cost for the choke spring, cover and rod would be $35-$40.

I don't really know what that car would need to put a choke on it, the intake has provision for the stock spring type divorced choke, but I don't know if that Holley carb would accept the choke rod for a stock choke. Neither the Holley carb or the high rise intake on that car look stock or correct for a 68. And if you weren't aware, the engine is not original and it seemed the seller went out of his way not to answer that question when asked by bidders.

$30,500 seems like all the money in the world for that car to me, but the reserve was not met.
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 05:54 PM
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If something as simple as a choke being left off and not fixed I'd hate to find out what was left off or missing on something more vital. If I were playing over 30g's for a vintage car I want ALL of the vintage car, including the choke.
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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That car is rough! I'm surprised the bid got to $30K
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 06:18 PM
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Lots of fishy stuff in the story the guy tells. Not only does he ignore the questions asking if the engine is numbers matching. He says in the five years he’s owned it he spent thousands of dollars getting it all rebuilt, then only drove the car less than 20 miles. Either he’s so rich he wouldn’t even blink at a 68’ roadster with a souped up big block or something else isn’t adding up.
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
If the car had it's original intake manifold and carburetor the total cost for the choke spring, cover and rod would be $35-$40.

I don't really know what that car would need to put a choke on it, the intake has provision for the stock spring type divorced choke, but I don't know if that Holley carb would accept the choke rod for a stock choke. Neither the Holley carb or the high rise intake on that car look stock or correct for a 68. And if you weren't aware, the engine is not original and it seemed the seller went out of his way not to answer that question when asked by bidders.

$30,500 seems like all the money in the world for that car to me, but the reserve was not met.
Indeed, I was thinking the same thing!

Jason
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It does see odd that if seller wanted top dollar for the car it would at least be in good starting condition. Looks to me to be a bit rough, not original and worth about the $30K.
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Nice looking car. So what if it doesn't have a choke, mine doesn't.even when I lived in Virginia. I had cars with no choke.it just requires a different procedure.
My bet someone has the car now that. Only drove 4 cyl Toyotas.
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Holley carburetor calibrated for performance won't need the choke on long if any at all but if it take starting fluid to start then it has either one or two bad accelerator pumps
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 10:51 AM
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Everybody seems to think choke cover, spring and rod. If they remove a choke the actual flap on the primary side of the carburetor is removed. That requires breaking loose the staked screws, pulling the blade and shaft out of the airhorn. These parts may require a junk carburetor using the same parts since I'm not aware of them being sold new.
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Originally Posted by MelWff
Everybody seems to think choke cover, spring and rod. If they remove a choke the actual flap on the primary side of the carburetor is removed. That requires breaking loose the staked screws, pulling the blade and shaft out of the airhorn. These parts may require a junk carburetor using the same parts since I'm not aware of them being sold new.
That they also think it will help performance. While it may work on some, I believe it hurts air flow on the Quadrajet.
As in the choke straightens the air out to some extent.
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pav8427
That they also think it will help performance. While it may work on some, I believe it hurts air flow on the Quadrajet.
As in the choke straightens the air out to some extent.
I know and it's a Holley, thanks
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
If the car had it's original intake manifold and carburetor the total cost for the choke spring, cover and rod would be $35-$40.

I don't really know what that car would need to put a choke on it, the intake has provision for the stock spring type divorced choke, but I don't know if that Holley carb would accept the choke rod for a stock choke. Neither the Holley carb or the high rise intake on that car look stock or correct for a 68. And if you weren't aware, the engine is not original and it seemed the seller went out of his way not to answer that question when asked by bidders.

$30,500 seems like all the money in the world for that car to me, but the reserve was not met.
If thats a 390 car you will have a super hard time finding an exact OE carb thus the Holley. The 68 390 quadrajets bring about $2,000 or so. Not sure why but they are expensive. The 427 390 intake manifolds aren’t much cheaper for a good unit.
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Duh, because race car! Performance, man! Don't see no pansy *** chokes or even choke horns at NASCAR or down at the old drag strip
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