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I think I prefer the look of the black finish versus chrome. I like the fact they are not as flashy as chrome, but still look good and of course, sound killer with a BBC. And not many opt for black so the exclusivity is desirable, and the price is easier to swallow.
How does this finish hold up compared to chrome or other types? Can they be refinished? Will the headers rust or time even if the car never sees rain?
Does anyone have some photos of these babies mounted?
Cam:
You can see the black Hooker side pipes in my signature. I don't run mufflers in them and they sound awesome. I love the fact that if they start to look rough I can pull them off, rough them up with some fine grit sandpaper and spray them down with black 1200 degree paint. That and the fact that I have the whole orange and black color scheme going on :D.
The black paint they are delivered in, suck..It becomes white and peels off.
If you go with the black ones i would recommend that you get them sandblased and repainted with a really good heatproof paint.. :cheers: :cheers:
Back when I had the small block in the '69 and was running the Hooker sidepipes, they were black and I liked them very much. Very discreet. I would paint them every couple of months while still on the car. Taping newpaper to the door and fender, or using a large piece of cardboard to shield the car. Steel wool was great to get the pipes pretty smooth prior to painting. I was often complimented by guys that thought they looked new. They would then go on and tell me how crappy they will look within the year. I was delighted to tell them that they had already been on for more than a year or two.
If I had it to do over again, I would have had Jet Hot apply their black coating. Por15 has a great etching primer coat that would have allowed me to paint over with the Black semi gloss VHT.
Re: hooker sidepipes- black painted (BB wowbagger)
The black paint they are delivered in, suck..It becomes white and peels off.
If you go with the black ones i would recommend that you get them sandblased and repainted with a really good heatproof paint.. :cheers: :cheers:
The black paint they are delivered in is just to keep them from rusting until they get shipped to you. It's not a hi-temp paint. Summit gives the following warning when buying black hooker sidepipes: "Painted headers are not surfaced with high temperature paint. The paint is intended for rust prevention in the box. It will burn off the header as it is used. This is standard throughout the industry"
Re: hooker sidepipes- black painted (Chuck Harmon)
cam,
Back when I had the small block in the '69 and was running the Hooker sidepipes, they were black and I liked them very much. Very discreet. I would paint them every couple of months while still on the car. Taping newpaper to the door and fender, or using a large piece of cardboard to shield the car. Steel wool was great to get the pipes pretty smooth prior to painting. I was often complimented by guys that thought they looked new. They would then go on and tell me how crappy they will look within the year. I was delighted to tell them that they had already been on for more than a year or two.
If I had it to do over again, I would have had Jet Hot apply their black coating. Por15 has a great etching primer coat that would have allowed me to paint over with the Black semi gloss VHT.
Chuck
Thanks for the ideas guys!
Does anyone have further info on this Jet-hot 'black'?
What is the life expectancy of a high quality paint such as VHT? I once used their cast iron spray on my stock manifolds and they are just now showing a bit of discoloring after 3+ years. Would the header material be less susceptible to corrosion attack versus cast iron? What about from the inside?
hey jet and guru,
i am trying to get a group purchase going on the hooker headers and sidepipes in another thread
"The best
price I can offer for the same set up is $1051.40 to the door. All the
prices include the headers,sidepipes fully coated in&out with the
sterling silver finish and muffler inserts. If someone doesn't want the
inserts ,take $110 off the price."
that makes it 941.40 for me. i dont know if they will do it in black but i will ask them in a few
check out my thread for updates
Mike
edit:
At the same time, they retard thermal fatigue and protect metallic substrates from oxidation and corrosion more effectively than any other commercially available coating. In salt-spray tests designed to accelerate rusting, for example, JET-HOT protects steel over 140 times longer than high-temperature paint, more than 14 times longer than chrome and more than 5 times longer than first-generation metallic-ceramic coatings. (See "Corrosion Comparison" below.)
BEST GUARANTEE—JET-HOT backs its coatings and workmanship with the most comprehensive guarantee in the industry, including lifetime rust-through protection on new headers.
I have been using the black hookers for 17 years now,, basically for the same reasons you mentioned... Im not after the flashy chrome look... I have removed them 5 times for glassbeading and repaint while my engines were being replaced.. they still look like new..I have replaced the insert mufflers each time as well... Good Luck :steering:
I have been using the black hookers for 17 years now,, basically for the same reasons you mentioned... Im not after the flashy chrome look... I have removed them 5 times for glassbeading and repaint while my engines were being replaced.. they still look like new..I have replaced the insert mufflers each time as well... Good Luck :steering:
any photos?
Michael: thanks for the idea, but if I go this route, it will not be until summer.
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