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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 12:42 PM
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In case you haven't ever seen anything like this.
Saw these at my buddies race car shop.
This is what kind of intake ports it takes to make 750HP on a small block at 8000rpm
Huge ports, smooth curves, almost straight port walls
Tiny Kidney shaped chambers
Even had to add some epoxy back in a few spots to correct smooth wall shape
Pushrod holes ground thru, copper tubes inserted, and epoxied in
Pretty severe porting, and good heads to start with
Dimples for intake gasket retention at the common leak points
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 05:29 PM
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That’s cool, but out of the box these almost flow 400 cfm on a SBC. 😬

https://brodix.com/heads-2/small-blo...linder-heads13

They would be great on a 13:1 434 SBC.
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 10:55 PM
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Those are some narrow gasket surfaces.

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Agree with the above, but these are far from stock.
IIRC they were Brodix heads.
IIRC they were never flowed on a bench, but done by a guy that has flowed many, and they performed at the track.
Those Brodix heads mentioned, at 382/258 cfm, should support ~550HP or so.
This engine is significantly stronger than that, by like 36%. So we can assume the flow is also.
I would assume the exhausts are well up in the 300s, the intakes in the 400s.
750 HP is some serious poop for a SBC, even a 427 one.
Hence the pics.
MPH is ~150mph ish
ET low 9s or so.
~2700 lbs
Nascar motors are not much higher, and they are now LS.

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Thanks for sharing this Leigh. I know my gasket surfaces really are not much wider on my rather low HP SBC. Really interesting to look at. Thanks!
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Chad is one of the very best 23 degree SBC head porters , here’s a 1.94 valve Super Stock cast iron head
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This is a AMC Pro Stock head to give you the extremes of hardcore racing in the day . Lee Shepherd of RMS did the same work but with BBC heads
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Some of this stuff gets real extreme. Some great examples above.
Years ago we rebuilt a 700+HP 302 SBC that had Brodix cylinder heads, but they had been cut apart laterally, like the pic above, and the ports were 1" taller than before.
Huge amount of work had been done to that one before we got our hands on it.
Custom sheet metal dominator intake, etc. 16:1 etc
Very interesting 11,000 rpm engine!
2500 rpm idle.
Sorry too long ago, no pics.
I helped build it and heard it run tho.
Sounded like a BB!
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Originally Posted by leigh1322
Agree with the above, but these are far from stock.
IIRC they were Brodix heads.
IIRC they were never flowed on a bench, but done by a guy that has flowed many, and they performed at the track.
Those Brodix heads mentioned, at 382/258 cfm, should support ~550HP or so.
This engine is significantly stronger than that, by like 36%. So we can assume the flow is also.
I would assume the exhausts are well up in the 300s, the intakes in the 400s.
750 HP is some serious poop for a SBC, even a 427 one.
Hence the pics.
MPH is ~150mph ish
ET low 9s or so.
~2700 lbs
Nascar motors are not much higher, and they are now LS.

Oh, no……. Those Brodix 13 degree heads will support well over 800 hp NA. Below is an example, not Brodix but similar CFM. But I was just givin’ ya a hard time… 👍🏼
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Take a good look at the Wally Booth heads at the bottom of the port.
Epoxied and Raised ports near an inch.
And just a little bit wider than the original epoxy shadow profile LOL!
Some of these guys just do insane work!

But rather than just random internet pics, which ones have you seen/touched/run/built etc?

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Buick Stage ? 455 style and yes those are pushrods poking through the port

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Stage II maybe?
I heard they made a couple of those.

My best friend built a 400 Ram Air V with over the counter race parts in 73-74
Shut down Hemis with that one!
For a while....oops.
But I never got to ride in it

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I wish I'd taken pics of the Batten Olds heads I had,( nearly 20 yrs ago), that had been ported by Dave Jacks. They were the size of the Wally Booth heads and flow was somewhere around 370+ cfm (?), I couldn't justify all the custom and high-end equipment they would've needed so they were sold.
Massive ports, but not the size of those Buick heads above.
1970's tech, but they still dominate the fastests Olds race engines to this day!
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Here’s Bob Glidden’s Plymouth Arrow 340 verses an unported W2 heads , I’ve deleted the picture that shows the epoxy work on the intake unfortunately
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These are LS heads but the chamber design is by Darrin Morgan for Warren Johnson Pro Stocker , for Warren it helped turn the short turn air , not sure why these guys are using it but could be the same reason
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I wish I took better pics and had some of how much I had to remove from the ports for the intake but I did a LOT of porting on my $300 ebay/enforcer style castings as well as to the assault intake to match. being it was my first attempt at porting it came out prety good but ive picked up a few tips since then. A lot from Eric W on you tube.
These heads are coming off my 355 and going on the 406 where the extra flow will get better utilized.
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Originally Posted by 67:72
Those are some narrow gasket surfaces.

I assume the dimples are to help with preventing the gasket from blowing out I have some similiar thin areas but nothing that extreme.
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I can still taste the cast iron from potting heads 40 plus years ago. Aluminum was much better to work with. And I used to put brass tubes in so I could s.ooth out that pushrod pinch. Nice pictures. Now you can buy what you need for the most part instead of make it.
You young guys really missed out.
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That's some nice chamber work Auggiedoggie!

"I love the taste of iron in the morning!" LOL
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Originally Posted by 7t9l82
I used to put brass tubes in so I could s.ooth out that pushrod pinch..
Stainless steel tubing works better, as it is available at only .010" wall thickness and still rigid enough to be lightly press fitted, and then also resisted being cut better in the porting endeavor.

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