C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Composit leaf spring question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 05:46 AM
  #1  
Afcop7111's Avatar
Afcop7111
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2025
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default Composit leaf spring question

My 73 has a composite leaf spring. Question is to level the car I have to run the driver side busing all the way tight and put the passenger at the lowest level. Frame measures correct from the ground at 4 points. Anyone know why?

Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 05:56 AM
  #2  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,225
Likes: 7,823
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

One front spring pushing harder against the rear? Improperly made rear spring? Improperly centered rear spring?
my bet would be one front spring stronger than the other. Pushing the car on a angle
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 06:09 AM
  #3  
Afcop7111's Avatar
Afcop7111
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2025
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks! I thought of all with the exception of the front springs! Lemme take a look at that. It makes sense.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 07:51 AM
  #4  
wheresmyhorsepower's Avatar
wheresmyhorsepower
Instructor
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 177
Likes: 74
From: California
Default

Mine's the same way. Left rear has to be raised relative to the right rear, about the same amount as yours. Been through 3 sets of front springs over the years and none made any difference. It hasn't affected anything driving wise at all so I don't worry about it.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 08:38 AM
  #5  
gbvette62's Avatar
gbvette62
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 12,679
Likes: 3,130
From: Shamong, NJ
Default

Welcome to the Forum!

I'm not sure what you mean by "composite leaf spring", what you have looks like a stock multi leaf steel spring. Composite rear springs are fiberglass or similar material single leaf springs. That said, from looking at your pictures it appears to me that you might need a new rear spring. It looks like the spring's main leaf has lost it's arch, especially on the right side, though it does look like the spring was previously replaced. While the cut of the ends of the main leaf and the up turned ends of the other leaves are typical of factory springs, stock springs did not use with spring clamps.

Besides the front springs, I would check the rear spring's center mount for a broken or or missing bolt holding the "dog bone" anchor plate.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 10:01 AM
  #6  
drwet's Avatar
drwet
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,232
Likes: 656
From: Thunder Bay
Default

First of all, you don't have a composite spring. That is a stock steel leaf spring.
Are the bolts the same length? If so, most likely the spring has lost its tension for some reason and will need to be replaced. To confirm I would support the front of the frame to take the front springs out of the equation. If the problem still exists, it has to be the spring. If you are going to replace it, I highly recommend going to the composite spring if there is a good one available these days.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 01:39 PM
  #7  
Tampa Jerry's Avatar
Tampa Jerry
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,539
Likes: 1,972
From: Temple Terrace Florida
Default

After you sort out the rear spring and you still have the unevenness, check to make sure the front springs are installed or "indexed" correctly. The front spring must be indexed in the top of the frame pocket. The top edge of the spring must be within 3/8" of the inspection hole in the frame. If not, the stance, front and back, will be uneven. Jerry
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 02:00 PM
  #8  
Mr E's C3's Avatar
Mr E's C3
Racer
Supporting Gold
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 278
Likes: 172
From: Pikes Peak region Colorado
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Default

My sbc 76 is the same way.
The front measures 27.5" side to side and 28" in the rear side to side. It drove me crazy at first (ok still does) but the car sits the way I like. I have a feeling my rear spring is in need replacing which my cure the difference in the rear bolts.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 02:32 PM
  #9  
TX427C3's Avatar
TX427C3
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 90 Days
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,076
Likes: 333
From: Dallas TX
St. Jude Donor '06-'09,'22,'25
Default

FWIW, this is a composite spring...


Reply
Old Jun 5, 2025 | 03:16 PM
  #10  
Afcop7111's Avatar
Afcop7111
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Jun 2025
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Well at least I know I am far from the only guy that has this issue. And you are right my friend, mine is not a composite, as I should have rephrased that, it is a replacement that was installed about 10 years ago. It was a less expensive one that has the rubber cushions between the layers.
Im going to first replace the front springs with the correct ones for the build as she is a small block no air car, then move to the back.
I do notice that when I “get on it”, during shifting manual trans, the car gets a bit squirrelly requiring a tad of movement on the wheel, as if she’s trying to “bend”, which may all tie into the rear spring.
350 rebuilt stock with exception of a mild cam for torque. She pulled about 318hp at the wheels on the dyno after rebuild. That was 12 years ago.
But so far guys, I couldn’t have asked for more great suggestions. Really glad I joined this thing. Keep up the fine work!
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 01:12 AM
  #11  
leigh1322's Avatar
leigh1322
Old Pro Solo Guy
Supporting Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 8,079
Likes: 4,431
From: Marlton NJ
Default

That looks like a 2" difference in spring height from left to right in the rear.
That is a big difference.
A car that does not sit level should always be checked out.

A stock spring has a 98# per inch rate, per wheel.

I doubt your 850# left corner suddenly gained 200#. Or that your frame is bent that much, or that a front spring mis-indexed by 1/2" would cause that.

I would suspect one cracked leaf in the rear spring, lowering it's stiffness rate. on one side only.
On the driver's side, left of center.
There are nine leaves in there, one cracked one would lower the spring rate a lot, and cause that.
A change from a 98# to 78# spring rate would need to be cranked up ~2 more inches to hold the weight and keep the car level.

And sooner or later another leaf will crack .....


Last edited by leigh1322; Jun 8, 2025 at 01:19 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 10:07 AM
  #12  
KENS80V's Avatar
KENS80V
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,907
Likes: 229
From: Oakbank Manitoba
Default

Body mounts and shims will also affect the ride height. If the rubber body mounts have deteriorated/collapsed then the ride height will be changed. Perhaps the body mount steel perch has rusted out. I purchased my 1980 Corvette in 1983 and noticed early on that the ride height in the rear was different from side to side in the rear. The factory workers installed a lot more body shims on the right rear body mounts compared to the left. Show us pictures of the #4 body mounts that are visible in the rear wheel wells.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 11:31 AM
  #13  
kansas123's Avatar
kansas123
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,814
Likes: 469
From: Wichita Kansas
Default

From Jerry's answer: To confirm I would support the front of the frame to take the front springs out of the equation.

Excellent idea, never thought to do that. Just excellent....
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 07:35 PM
  #14  
leigh1322's Avatar
leigh1322
Old Pro Solo Guy
Supporting Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 8,079
Likes: 4,431
From: Marlton NJ
Default

Very good idea.
Pick it up in rear center, like a 3 legged chair, them measure the front heights.
Reverse and do the rears.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 08:44 PM
  #15  
av81's Avatar
av81
Racer
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 395
Likes: 52
From: wilmington Ma
Default

Back in the day I worked in a body shop , I did all the alignments , most of the time the frame was bent on vettes when you had to adjust like that , they bent on light hits cause the glass really does nothing so the frame takes the punishment. This conclusion is only after all the basics were checked.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 09:43 PM
  #16  
OldCarBum's Avatar
OldCarBum
Race Director
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 14,399
Likes: 8,204
From: Napa Valley California
Default

Back up and take some more pictures of the entire rear suspension.
There could be several items causing your issues.
One that I see is that the shipping straps were never removed from the spring.
You also answered a possible problem already when you stated the spring was a less expensive one.

What front springs are you running?

Have you recently made changes to the suspension and if so what?

It sounds like you’ve owned this car for a long time.
Has it always had this problem or is this something new?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2025 | 09:47 PM
  #17  
TommyFox's Avatar
TommyFox
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,383
Likes: 385
From: Leland , North Carolina
Default

All 3 of mine were like this. All heavy in weight drivers. Fixed with new parts and alignment.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2025 | 09:44 AM
  #18  
leigh1322's Avatar
leigh1322
Old Pro Solo Guy
Supporting Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 8,079
Likes: 4,431
From: Marlton NJ
Default

I thought I read that you had measured the frame and thought it was straight.
But it is easy enough to check that at home, without dissasembling anything.
You just need a tape measure. And a concrete floor.
You are just looking for numbers that vary more than 1/4 inch.
X type measurements are the most accurate. Even 1/2" on those should be OK.
When measuring to the floor, you need to account for the floor, which will also likely droop by 1/2" somewhere. Like toward the door.

I use a 5 foot 1" Aluminum I-Beam, from Home Depot, and a few 1/8" linoleum floor tiles, to make level spots on the floor. For good measurements.

Don't forget, a 1/4" +/- is a close as these frames were when they were new.

There are a lot of numbers in that chart. I would probably just pick 4 vertical from front to back. each side, and then 2 x- measurements. And call it good. Also measure grease cap to axle center wheelbase on both sides and make sure they match. My wheelbase was off 1/2" and the left front 1" high, due to impact with a ditch. Sat real crooked like yours. And bent front lower a-arm brackets.

Last edited by leigh1322; Jun 9, 2025 at 09:52 AM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Composit leaf spring question





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:55 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE