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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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New Pace catalog came today. While flipping through I found this little jem. Price not listed on the website but catalog lists it at $21,454.00. Okay, with a price like that it's not really much more than a dream... still neat to look at though.

From Pace website: (http://www.paceparts.com/product.asp?3=56150)



Ram Jet ZL1: Part number not yet available
Getting a hold of one of these may be more difficult than hitting your state lottery. GM Performance Parts is proud to bring back a legend, if only for a limited time. The Ram Jet ZL1 is the ’69 ZL1 of the new millennium, with its revised aluminum block, a solid roller cam, large oval port aluminum cylinder heads, and the Ram Jet fuel injection system...that’s right, Fuel Injection. The Ram Jet ZL1 is ‘454 cid with a street friendly 10.2:1 compression ratio that will idle all day long, unlike its predecessor of the late 60’s. If you want a Ram Jet ZL1 get in line now, GM Performance Parts will be producing a very limited 200 of these all-aluminum Rat Motors for sale on the open market and I would be willing to bet Jay Leno already has his eye on one...make that 199!
Ram Jet ZL1 Technical Information
·HP: 510 @ 5750
·Torque: 493 Ft. Lbs. @ 4250 RPM
·Compression Ratio: 10.2:1
·Bore: 4.250”
·Stroke: 4.00”
·Block: Mark IV Aluminum ZL1
·Crankshaft: Forged 1053 Steel
·Connecting Rods: Forged 4340 Steel
·Pistons: Forged aluminum with pressed pin
·Piston Rings: Plasma-moly rings
·Camshaft: Mechanical roller
(.640” / .598” lift)
(236 / 232 duration @ .050”)
·Lifters: Mechanical Roller tappet
·Cylinder Heads: Aluminum Oval Port with a 110cc combustion chamber
·Intake Valves: 2.25” Stainless Steel
·Exhaust Valves: 1.88” Stainless Steel
·Rocker Arms: Aluminum Roller Rockers, 1.7:1 ratio
·Push Rods: High Performance (1-piece)
·Intake Manifold: Ram Jet Injection (complete with wiring harness and CPU)
·Windage Tray: All new design, Teflon coated
·Damper: GM 8”, counterweighted
·Distributor: Electronic CPU controlled
·Ignition Timing: Base 10-degree
·Spark Plugs: R43XLS
·Fuel: 92 Octane


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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Now they need to offer it as an option in the C6!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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Those horsepower and torque numbers are horrible. That motor is a mess for $22,000. That motor is begging for 11-12:1 compression, some really nice flowing R-Port heads and a bigger camshaft.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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I agree with bence. For 22k, I better get a lot more than 510 hp!! The catalog says one can buy the bare alum block for a mere $5k!! Whew!! I think I'll stick with iron.

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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I don't see it's weight listed in the specs. Or is that not a factor with engines? Isn't lighter=better?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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In hotrod they were talkin about this one awhile back, the big deal is that it can idle in traffic, and gets 20mpg on the road... while still being a monster :cool:
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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That's $43 per horsepower :eek: . You can build a streetable 383 with the same horsepower and more torque for about $6k. AFR has dyno sheets for this on the website: http://www.airflowresearch.com then click on "dyno tests" at the top of the page :cheers:


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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Weight is very important. Not sure the weight of the fully assem. ZL1 but bare block is 110# Vs. cast iron bare block 270#.

I would guesstimate the fully assembled engine weighs around 300#.

Aluminum small block (bare) weighs only 90 pounds. That would be my choice for aluminum.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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ZD75blue:
Point taken. However if I recall Chuck Harmon is getting like 16-18MPG on the highway with his ROD 6 speed. That's with a high compression, solid flat tappet carbureted big block.

I suppose 20MPG is an accomplishment. However I didn't build my car to be an economical machine. My motor is putting out very close numbers to that motor but costs $17,000 less :) and weighs a little bit more. I can fill my gas tank up a heck of a lot of times with $17,000.

I guess I'm just disappointed with what could have been a re-release of a monster.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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thats one bad motor but the price is :crazy: you could buy a used c5 for almost that much.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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Dayum!!!!!! :eek: :cool:
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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I want it!!!! In 427, carb'd, ZL1 cam, dry sump lube, Brodix heads. Time to go hot-lapping! I think my dream engine is cheaper too!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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I'll take it if they insist.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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Your not paying for horsepower......your paying for a serial number.


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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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That is sweet. but even if i had that kind of money, no way would i pay 21K for 500HP :rolleyes:
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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Your not paying for horsepower......your paying for a serial number.
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:iagree: Exactly. It'll take a LONG time for that motor to ever be worth more
than $20k. Even if you can afford to buy a ZL-1 Camaro to put it in - it's still
not original. This is the only good reason I can think of to buy one.
Oh well - there's got to be at least 200 people around with that much cash to drop on a 500HP BB - so they should sell 'em OK.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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They`re not gonna sell one to me for that price but it sure would be nice to have something like that out front.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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200X$21,454....
$4,290,800

Four and a quarter+ million dollars on 200 engines. Maybe I should consider buying GM stock. :crazy:
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