rust removal using batt charger
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 6,209
Likes: 33
From: Texas-out west
rust removal using batt charger
OK, lost how to set up this. I can't remember if you attach + to iron rod or - to rod and the other goes directly in H2o solution using comet etc. Anyone remember correct way....Another way to ask this question is which way does electric current flow, pos to neg or neg to pos on battery????? :confused:
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 2,845
Likes: 2
From: Apex NC
Re: rust removal using batt charger (LT1driver)
http://cvh.50megs.com/re/index.html
This is a page that a buddy of mine put together, describes how he does it.
Shannon :cheers:
This is a page that a buddy of mine put together, describes how he does it.
Shannon :cheers:
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,131
Likes: 4
From: May help you? You can sure as hell try!
Re: rust removal using batt charger (LT1driver)
Does this really work??? I've never seen this before. I've seen electric currents used as a method rust prevention (as in sacraficial anodes for building structures, bridges etc.) but never in rust removal . Interesting.......please post before and after results.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,607
Likes: 0
From: Clarksville,Tn,USA TN
Re: rust removal using batt charger (hauk)
This is my favorite method for rust removal. Battery charger, some electrolyte (sodium carbonate), negative on the good piece, positive on a piece of junk iron. Converts your iron oxide back into just iron.
How much water is needed verses how much sodium carbonate is needed?
What amount of amperes must you be running through the metal and how do you determine how long you need to be hooked up to remove the rust?
Neil in Tenn
[Modified by Nomad78SA, 5:21 PM 9/19/2003]
How much water is needed verses how much sodium carbonate is needed?
What amount of amperes must you be running through the metal and how do you determine how long you need to be hooked up to remove the rust?
Neil in Tenn
[Modified by Nomad78SA, 5:21 PM 9/19/2003]
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 2,473
Likes: 10
From: New Paltz, New York USA
Re: rust removal using batt charger (LT1driver)
I have never heard of this before, but it sounds like a great idea. Could you post some more info on how this is done. Like what is the amounts used in the mixture and how long do you leave the charger on and at what setting. Thanks. :cool: :cool:
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer
Brett Foote
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years
Joe Kucinski
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!
Michael S. Palmer
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!
Joe Kucinski
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter
Joe Kucinski
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time
Verdad Gallardo
Pro
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Re: rust removal using batt charger (LT1driver)
I'm familiar with electroplating, and that's exactly what you guys seem to be talking about.
I'm not a chemical engineer or anything, but I doubt that the electroplating process "converts" the iron oxide back to plain iron.
The way I learned it: electons are passed from one part to another, and settle on the surface of the other part. How would adding a coating of iron to iron oxide convert the rust back to iron?? Wouldn't the rust still be there underneath??? Are you guys using the alkaline/ caustic to nuetralize the rust??
I used to help a family friend at his jewelry store electroplate trinkets and figurines with gold or silver or both (I'm sure the bastard was making some good money on the junk!) There was specific chemicals used to electroplate each. In science class, we used vinegar and I think salt, to transfer from a penny to a quarter or vice versa.
The thickness of the electroplating is soo thin, aren't there easier ways to restore metal??
I'm not doubting that the process has its merits, but I'm just curious about the "converting" rust back to iron part.
[Modified by '75 383 ElkGrove, 7:51 PM 9/19/2003]
I'm not a chemical engineer or anything, but I doubt that the electroplating process "converts" the iron oxide back to plain iron.
The way I learned it: electons are passed from one part to another, and settle on the surface of the other part. How would adding a coating of iron to iron oxide convert the rust back to iron?? Wouldn't the rust still be there underneath??? Are you guys using the alkaline/ caustic to nuetralize the rust??
I used to help a family friend at his jewelry store electroplate trinkets and figurines with gold or silver or both (I'm sure the bastard was making some good money on the junk!) There was specific chemicals used to electroplate each. In science class, we used vinegar and I think salt, to transfer from a penny to a quarter or vice versa.
The thickness of the electroplating is soo thin, aren't there easier ways to restore metal??
I'm not doubting that the process has its merits, but I'm just curious about the "converting" rust back to iron part.
[Modified by '75 383 ElkGrove, 7:51 PM 9/19/2003]
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Alberta
Re: rust removal using batt charger ('75 383 ElkGrove)
It's not electroplating, it's an electrochemical reduction reaction. Rust forms when oxygen in the air strips electrons away from iron and forms iron oxide. By forcing electrons back in, so to speak, the reaction can be reversed. The problem is that rust is a porous, flaky solid, so it's not possible to convert it back without losing material.
It can be done for other metals as well, those "magic bars" that remove tarnish from silver are nothing more than chunks of scrap aluminum. In that case the aluminum gives up electrons to the silver and the process occurs spontaneously without needing a source of electricity.
It can be done for other metals as well, those "magic bars" that remove tarnish from silver are nothing more than chunks of scrap aluminum. In that case the aluminum gives up electrons to the silver and the process occurs spontaneously without needing a source of electricity.
Abby Normal
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 53,446
Likes: 92
From: Press "2" for English
Re: rust removal using batt charger (LT1driver)
WOW! this sounds really cool. never heard of it before but i'd really like to see it done. if anybody does this, how 'bout taking some pics!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,399
Likes: 278
From: Olmsted Falls, Ohio
Re: rust removal using batt charger (clutchdust)
This method does work with excellent results and it is time consuming - this will not happen in 15-20 minutes!.
No flame intended but IMHO I could (or have the large parts done at a shop) media blast parts and have them primered in less time than it takes for this method to reach the primer stage.
No flame intended but IMHO I could (or have the large parts done at a shop) media blast parts and have them primered in less time than it takes for this method to reach the primer stage.
Race Director
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 16,978
Likes: 7
From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: rust removal using batt charger (KenSny)
No flame intended but IMHO I could (or have the large parts done at a shop) media blast parts and have them primered in less time than it takes for this method to reach the primer stage.
Race Director
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 16,978
Likes: 7
From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: rust removal using batt charger (MNJack)
I wonder if it would work on me! I've been feeling a bit rusty lately.... :lol: MJ
Melting Slicks
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,399
Likes: 278
From: Olmsted Falls, Ohio
Re: rust removal using batt charger (GDaina)
George - Yeah, I can almost walk there from where I live. I get all my stuff done there. Even had some patio furniture done a few years back. Nice bunch of guys and the price is right.
Race Director
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 16,978
Likes: 7
From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: rust removal using batt charger (SIGNGUY)
BTW...has any of you used OSPHO on rust? works great!
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 8,339
Likes: 24
From: I can walk to MA
Re: rust removal using batt charger (GDaina)
OSPHO ? Is this a phosphoric acid based converter/primer ?
I've used the POR brand Metal Ready, and recently stuff I got at Home Depot
called A Must For Rust. Both do a great job on wirebrushed rust and clean metal.
:seeya
I've used the POR brand Metal Ready, and recently stuff I got at Home Depot
called A Must For Rust. Both do a great job on wirebrushed rust and clean metal.
:seeya
Le Mans Master
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 9,662
Likes: 7
From: Semper ubi, sub ubi
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Re: rust removal using batt charger (NHvette)
OSPH is a clear sort of light green liquid. It is just phosphoric acid in a water solution. You paint it on rusty metal and it forms a sort of white crust on it, the rust turns dark gray or black. After the crust forms you can wire brush it off and wipe down with prepsol and primer and paint. I think it is supposed to mildly etch the metal and turn the rust into iron phosphate. I haven't used any of it in years, POR15 works so much better over rusty metal.