Need advice on 1972 LT-1
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6th Gear
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From: salem OR
Need advice on 1972 LT-1
I am listing this soon on ebay for a friend of mine. I wanted to see what you guys thought that it would be worth. It is a 1972 LT1 with 42,000 original miles. It is green with black interior and is in pretty good shape. There are some paint chips and scratches but it is a 30 year old car. It is all numbers matching, supposedly with the Rock Crusher, but I still have to verify that. It has a new rebuilt engine, centerforce clutch, carb, headers, MSD ignition but looks faily stock under the hood. It has these wierd looking aluminum wheels on it that I have never seen before. The owner said that he talked with a Corvette guy who offered him big money for them because they were factory '70-'73 ZR-1 wheels. I doubt this other guy knew what he was talking about but anyway. Do you guys think that it would be worth $21,000 by the description? I have to clean it up in a week or so and then I will post some pictures of it.
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Racer9980)
Is the "new rebuilt" engine a newly rebuilt original engine or a "numbers matching" NOM?
If it really has the M-22 ("Rockcrusher") transmission and with those wheels I wonder if it is a ZR1? How do you tell? :) MJ
If it really has the M-22 ("Rockcrusher") transmission and with those wheels I wonder if it is a ZR1? How do you tell? :) MJ
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (MNJack)
First off the ZR1 was 70-72 and they used the rally wheels. There was no aluminum wheel for the ZR1 cars. The ZR1 cars had some other differences in the brakes and some other parts of the car. If the car is rough and has a replacement engine I doubt it is worth that much. You can also tell by the serial number. The 5th digit should be an L. This signifies it had an LT1 motor in it.
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From: salem OR
Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Gordonm)
It is numbers matching everything, intake, carb, tranny. It does have headers and an MSD ignition but other than that it looks really stock under the hood.
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Racer9980)
It is numbers matching everything, intake, carb, tranny. It does have headers and an MSD ignition but other than that it looks really stock under the hood.
I'm in the market for an LT1 but to find an unadulaterated LT1 is a challenge. The claims are plentiful but the finds...few. Talked to a fellow selling a 72 LT1 for another...and come to find out the engine suffix was for a base motor! Of course the owner claimed it was a "numbers matching" LT1 car.
My experience is that once you find a "few upgrades" it spells trouble and compromises the authencity without documentation to show otherwise. No offense intend but Looks really stock fails to make it an original LT1 car.
I've looked at cosmetically correct LT1 cars but then they fail the test under closer scrutiny...like is the TI amp present...or holes left behind? Two fuel lines or one? And as point out...is the L in the VIN.
I'm sure a number of us are curious and will follow this thread.
Drifting
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Gordonm)
Gordon is correct, no aluminum wheels were ever on a 70-72, only introduced in 73 with a very limited number (4 sets) and the serial number on the engine would have an "L" as the fifth digit for LT1... :iagree:
Melting Slicks
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (73jst4fun)
I am one of those concerned as much with proper documentation as originality. There are enough parts (for a price) to take a completely non original car and return ot to a perfect NCRS car, short ot being a survivor or 'original'
With that, I have a couple of questions:
1. what documentation does he have?
2. do the original exhaust manifolds, ignition system come with the car?
3. what is the engine pad stamp read?
4. Is the LT-1 designation in the VIN as mentioned above.
5. Are the clamps, hoses, belts replacements or correct.
6. Why was the engine replaced at 41k miles?
With that, I have a couple of questions:
1. what documentation does he have?
2. do the original exhaust manifolds, ignition system come with the car?
3. what is the engine pad stamp read?
4. Is the LT-1 designation in the VIN as mentioned above.
5. Are the clamps, hoses, belts replacements or correct.
6. Why was the engine replaced at 41k miles?
Melting Slicks
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Robert N)
A friend of mine just bought a very clean, bone stock original and documented, numbers matching '72 LT-1 coupe a few months ago for $19000. It has a documented original 4.10 rear end (very rare '72 option) and was one of the last LT-1's made. It has a very high serial number and was built during the last couple of weeks of '72 production.
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From: Apsley ON
Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (LemansBlue68)
Like anyother vette the chances of an LT1 having the orginal engine is "0" The sucker would have blow-up years ago. A re-stamped engine or something else
What I look at is the overal-condition of the whole vette
For a 72 SMB anywhere from $3,50 to $18,000
What I look at is the overal-condition of the whole vette
For a 72 SMB anywhere from $3,50 to $18,000
Melting Slicks
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From: Tucson AZ
Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (77-C3 & 89-C4)
Like anyother vette the chances of an LT1 having the orginal engine is "0" The sucker would have blow-up years ago. A re-stamped engine or something else
Melting Slicks
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Re: Need advice on 1972 LT-1 (Robert N)
Like anyother vette the chances of an LT1 having the orginal engine is "0" The sucker would have blow-up years ago. A re-stamped engine or something else
I beg to differ. While mine was toasted, I have seen quite a few original engine cars with stamps and there are plenty of survivor cars out there.
I beg to differ. While mine was toasted, I have seen quite a few original engine cars with stamps and there are plenty of survivor cars out there.
I happen to know where an original LT-1 (in a Camaro) happens to sit.
Steve
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