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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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From a web surch for Boyd Coddington wheels, I found a site with pictures of Boyd's wheels and a phone number. After numerous phone calls (each was answered; "Boyd Coddington") I decided on my style, sizes, and special treatment, ordered the wheels and charged them on my credit card. I was in no big hurry, as I told Ryan, because the Vette was down and I wouldn't hold him to his promised delevery of 4 to 6 weeks. After about 10 weeks, I called Ryan and inquired about my order. He asured me that ther had been a slight delay and that I should receive my wheels within about two weeks. A few more weeks passed and I called only to get an ansering machine message(not abnormal, I had gotten it in the past; Boyd Coddington's answering machine). I left my number and asked for a return call, which I receiced; from Bryan. The message he left on my answering maching was barely understandalble; "your wheels bla bla bla are bla b la and sent back to the factory bla bla and you should recieve them shortly". (EDIT:) (I'll continue now, Windows had to shut down.) Any way, when I call today to check, the phone numbers have been disconnected. I call Santa Ana, CA information and get a business number for Boyd Coddington. The lady that answered the phone, "Boyd Coddington", has no record of me, my invoice number, or my order (my credit card has already be billed and paid). When I tell her the address on my invoice, she says, "Thats not us.". I notice the name on the sales receipt stapled to the invoice is "BC Motorsports". She says she never hear of them. She takes my number to check deeper and calles me back; She tells me to call so and so at the wheel place and tell him your situation, see if he knows any thing. Well so and so tells me that Boyd, JR. decided to go off on a little business venture of his own (apparently it went bad, or maybe it went well, depending on your point of view!) Hopefully, I'll be able to recoup most of my funds through my credit card provider. :cuss


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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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crap happens...it took 10 weeks for me to get my Edelbrock 409's...
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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vettery, there was a show on TV where Boyd Coddington sr. built a roadster in a month or so and the woman who runs the front office IS Boyd Coddingtons EX wife and probably the mother of BC jr. I would call back and talk with her or NICELY demand to speak with Boyd sr. ...redvetracr

PS: is the website still "up"??


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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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sounds strange.....so are you going to get your wheels or not?
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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I would notify your credit card company, I think you were defrauded!
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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The name sounds like he's some bad-toothed british guy sporting a comb over who spends his weekends hunting a single small red fox using 25 hounds and 5 gentlemen riding their horses... for sport.

Seriously, though, I haven't heard the name before, and I am sorry to hear of your plight. I agree with what others have said so far, and I would like to add that speaking with the better business bureau (beurau? buraeu?) would be a good idea also. Do a google for BBB.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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vettery, there was a show on TV where Boyd Coddington sr. built a roadster in a month or so and the woman who runs the front office IS Boyd Coddingtons EX wife and probably the mother of BC jr. I would call back and talk with her or NICELY demand to speak with Boyd sr. ...redvetracr

PS: is the website still "up"??


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redvetracr: Yes I saw most of that show. The woman I spoke with was named Linda? She did tell me that if I didn't resolve my delima, to call her back, which I will. The guy I talked to at "Wheels" (the number Linda gave me) knew of BC motorsports, Coddington Jr's involvement, and Ryan the guy that worked for Jr.

I haven't been able to find that site yet from my home computer, previous visits had been from my pc at work.

Redshark6974: I doubt I'll be getting my wheels from BC Motorsports. I'll probably have to re-order from another dealer. Linda gave me impression that they didn't sell to individuals.


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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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That is one of the many advantages of buying everything with a credit card. Let your card company know immediately that you have been shafted.
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I saw that Discovery show. I think they were trying to copy American Chopper format. It just didnt have the drama of Daddy and Jr yelling at each other though.

Boyd Coddington has been a top notch name in the street rodder world for many years. Ive never heard anything bad about that business.

Usually you hear just the opposite, as in getting anything Boyds including the wheels is like Christmas in July!!

Brent...
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Boyd Coddington has been a top notch name in the street rodder world for many years. Ive never heard anything bad about that business..
:iagree: :thumbs:

Sorry to hear your having trouble. He has been a huge name in the hot rod business for many years on the west coast.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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Boyd Coddington has been in Hot Rod Magazine and Car Craft Magazine numerous times over the years with Rods he's built and wheels etc.... Maybe a call to Hot Rod or I believe Peterson Publishing could help. Hope you get your wheels or your money back.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 01:21 AM
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Boyd isn't going to shaft you, and I don't believe there is any sort of fraud involved. But I do believe it's going to take awhile. Take a deep breath, and give it some more time.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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The fact is there are lots of distributors selling Boyd Coddington Wheels, and it sounds like you've struck one of these who have gone under........best you get onto your credit card company ASAP........

You should know there was some bankruptcy trouble with Boyd Coddington's wheel company some years back......so much legal BS that he wasn't even allowed to use his own name, so some other company took over for awhile.......maybe that's been sorted out, who knows????.........but I would rather deal with somebody related to Boyd Coddington rather than someone who's phone has been disconnected.......

Anyway....WHEN you get your money back, go directly to the source:
http://www.billetwheel.com/companyinfo.html.....this to me appears to be the genuine Boyd located in La Habre, CA (Santa Ana???)......

And BTW, for those who don't know, Boyd Coddington IS the master of style.....he built ZZ Tops Cadzilla......and this recent rod.......quite frankly he should have been instructing Zora..........

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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 03:16 AM
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The fact is there are lots of distributors selling Boyd Coddington Wheels, and it sounds like you've struck one of these who have gone under........best you get onto your credit card company ASAP........
appears to be the genuine Boyd located in La Habre, CA (Santa Ana???)......
:iagree: Boyd Coddington is also well known here on the other side of the bond, so I think Boyd itself wouldn't do anything like that... That's the worse thing you can do to your business. :smash:
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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It's been my experience when a company keeps making excuses about shipment AND charges your credit card before the mechandise is shipped, which I understand is illegal, they have serious problems. Don't put all your faith in a name, handle your business and start trying to get your money back.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Believe me, I immediately contacted my credit card provider. I almost let the window of opportunity close. According to my credit card agreement, I had 90 days from the date of expected delivery to dispute the transaction. I have 2 weeks left to notify the issuing bank in writing that I have attempted to contact BC Motorsports to cancel my order without success.

Don’t get me wrong, I have great respect for Boyd Coddington Co’s work and products. Yes, I apparently picked the wrong distributor. I thought I was working with people close to the source. I mean BC Motorsports (Boyd Coddington , get it). Ryan (the guy that I always dealt with on the phone) told me that they didn’t normally sell to individuals but since I called them directly, they would work with me. They were to hard black anodize the wheel centers before welding them in.

Deal with someone related to Boyd Coddington? That’s the problem. BC Motorsports was Boyd Coddington Jr’s business, the ones phone that’s been disconnected. The guy at billet wheels gave me Jr’s personal phone number. I’ve called and left 2 messages. Do you think I’ve received a return call?
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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From billet wheel web site:

Boyd Coddington is an automotive industry legend, whose work embodies the American hot rod. From the small town of Rupert, Idaho, where he grew up on farm, Boyd Coddington moved to California, reinvented the hot rod in the sixties, and in just a few short years became a legend, building the finest and most celebrated hot rods in the world. From that, Boyd launched a wheel company that became a market leader in the billet wheel manufacturing industry.

Boyd Coddington Companies, and NRG Motorsports Inc. is truly a family business. In 1997, Boyd Coddington Junior started Boyd Coddington Wheels, continuing the legendary Coddington dedication to innovation, quality, and service allowing Boyd Senior to focus his energies on building and marketing innovative new hot rods, components, and accessories. Joined by Boyd Senior's other sons, Greg and Chris Coddington, the family works together to continue to take Boyd Coddington Wheels and Hot Rods to new heights by impementing new designs, space age materials and machining processes. Boyd Coddington Companies produces the finest hot rods, frames, chassis, and accessories, as well as the highest quality wheels at the best value price on the market today. All Boyd Coddington hot rods and wheels are designed and manufactured at Boyd Coddington's Garage, in La Habra, California. With over 40 years of combined experience, the Coddington family has the highest commitment and dedication to the hot rod and wheel industries.


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From bankrupt.com:

AUTOMOTIVE PERFORMANCE: Restructuring Nearing Completion
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Automotive Performance Group, Inc.'s (OTCBB:RACG) Chairman and
Chief Executive Officer, Dean M. Willard, today updated the
Company's recent restructuring activities and commented on
current business trends in his Letter To Shareholders. His
comments are reproduced in their entirety in the following
release.

December 16, 1999

Dear Fellow Shareholder:

I am writing to you in my continuing effort to keep you informed
of the performance and progress of Automotive Performance Group
(APG)....

We have achieved important progress with our Boyds investment, as
well. Some of our successes with Boyds have been in the
courtroom. Protecting important assets acquired with Boyds, the
cost of litigation has further aggravated our cash situation. The
legal matter I am referring to is a recent decision in the United
States Bankruptcy Court granting Boyds a preliminary injunction
against Boyd Coddington, Sr. and Boyd Coddington, Jr. to stop
them from using any of the registered trademarks and Boyds Wheels
and Hot Rods by Boyd. We are continuing to pursue these
defendants in Federal District Court concerning their infringing
actions.

Boyds has been able to establish business relationships within
the automotive wheel industry which have the potential of
generating$2-3 million in revenues for the Company next year.
There is no assurance that Boyds will be able to realize these
revenues, as we require substantial working capital to support
the activity and we are still attempting to arrange the necessary
financing. In the meantime, we have taken every possible step to
reduce cash outflows relating to this business. We also
successfully completed the sale of the rights to the Boyds
appearance products line to our current licensee.

Our management team continues in its commitment to the successful
restructuring of APG and Boyds. The companies are still faced
with an extremely tight cash position and a need to further
convert short-term obligations into some form of long-term debt
or equity. Our primary objective is to protect our investment in
the Permatex companies and to the proper restructuring of our
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From bcforged:

Boyd Coddington Jr., the founder of Boyd Coddington Wheels and now BC Precision Forged Alloys has been manufacturing multi-piece wheels for over 15 years. Continuing the legendary Coddington dedication to innovation, quality and service, Boyd Coddington Jr. will now focus his energies on the luxury and performance wheel market and brings to BC Wheels the same quest for innovation, design leadership and excellence that has become and always will be our standard.

Hard work, dedication, and inspired strategic development enabled Boyd Coddington Jr. to enjoy seeing exceptional growth for BC Wheels since its inception. BC Wheels is recognized around the world as a leader in wheel design for premium European, luxury, SUV’s and passenger cars.

State of the art technology is present in all of our manufacturing stages; from perfect machining, to computer balanced and hand finished wheels, where each is ready for delivery of safe and reliable performance.

That is why our wheels are made for the automotive enthusiast who only wants the best.




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Boyd Jr. designs custom Navigator.....

5W PUBLIC RELATIONS SELECTED FOR PUBLIC RELATIONS COUNSEL FOR SEAN JOHN NAVIGATOR

New York, NY, June 13, 2003 - 5W Public Relations, a premier Public Relations agency announced today that Buzztone, a lifestyle marketing company had selected the firm for media relations surrounding the launch of the customized "Sean John" Lincoln Navigator. 5W Public Relations will handle media relations for the launch of the customized Navigators, priced at $85,000.

100 of the customized Navigators will be sold beginning on August 1 at select Lincoln dealerships in the U.S. Sean "P Diddy" Combs collaborated with the best design & manufacturing team, the premier wheel designer

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and the best of breed in the automotive category to develop something that truly reflects his style and taste. Some of the proprietary and unique features include a 22 inch Sean John Wheel, custom badging, black chrome paint treatment, exhaust, back up camera, exclusive Jacob & Co watch as the "Clock", a Premier Audio System with satellite radio, three DVD players and six TV monitors, a Playstation 2, highest-grade leather seats, heated/vibrating driver and front passenger seats, suede covered center consoles, and black interior.

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