Rear wheel bearings?
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Rear wheel bearings?
I have a louder than normal roaring sound from the rear of my 73. Any thoughts on what this might be? I was thinking maybe the wheel bearings need to be replaced.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (aardvark)
It is quit possible it is a rear wheel bearing but unless you are handy and ready for a really tough job better get a mechanic to fix it , one that is totally familiar with your car. The average mechanic wouldn't have a clue.
It is quit costly.
It is quit costly.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
The average mechanic wouldn't have a clue. It is quit costly.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (aardvark)
aardvark I don't know how capable you are and this is a difficult job for the amature but if money is really tight and you really want to tackle it yourself it is possible and we all have to learn or pay and if you want to learn give it a try and let us talk you through it.
This is something that will take you weeks/month taking a set at a time.
I would gladly help with advice. I have done many of them and understand what is need as do alot of others on this forum.
YOu will pay either with money or your own sweat. You decide.
Have a nice day
I would gladly let you email me at home asking any questions you like.
This is something that will take you weeks/month taking a set at a time.
I would gladly help with advice. I have done many of them and understand what is need as do alot of others on this forum.
YOu will pay either with money or your own sweat. You decide.
Have a nice day
I would gladly let you email me at home asking any questions you like.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
I've done three of four of my cars this way. Take the bearing carrier away from the trailing arm and send to Bair's. They service wheel bearings for $150 per side providing all your parts are "servicable". You get your unit back looking like an NOS piece, and to me, it was well worth it.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (Paul Borowski)
I appreciate everyone's help. I think my best bet is to have them seviced by Van Steel or Bairs. Now if I only knew how and what to take off. Is there any instructions out there anywhere?
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (Paul Borowski)
Paul I have done the stock units and machined my own custom axles and oversize bearings. $150 per side is very expensive for me. Their are only 2 bearings worth about $10 each, 2 seats $5 each and 2 seals, another $5. That's about $30 per side for parts, the rest is labor. If you have a press it is simple enough to do if you know the theory on what you are trying to do. For someone with your knowledge I am suprised you don't do it all yourself.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
For someone with your knowledge I am suprised you don't do it all yourself.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
The rear wheel bearing assembly, and the setup thereof, appears to have way too much Mechanic VooDoo involved for me to attempt the repair. I believe I shelled out $250 for my mechanic to do mine. The next time, I'll consider Van Steel or the others. But like Paul, I really just don't want to mess with it.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
I am the second owner of a 44,000 mile '73 coupe that was driven up until this year. It currently sits with the body off and the frame stripped of components. I am now starting the TA disassembly process. As far as I can tell, the rear bearings, along with almost everything else, have never been serviced. It would be a shame to replace perfectly good bearings if they are serviceable. Does the following process make sense?
- make sure bearing end play and rotor runout is within limits before disassembly
- press out spindle
- clean and inspect spindle and bearings while leaving outboard bearing installed
- if OK, grease and re-install inboard bearing with new seal after related TA parts are painted
I would appreciate comments as I have lots of time to try and do this right the first time.
[Modified by jims73, 2:46 AM 11/29/2003]
- make sure bearing end play and rotor runout is within limits before disassembly
- press out spindle
- clean and inspect spindle and bearings while leaving outboard bearing installed
- if OK, grease and re-install inboard bearing with new seal after related TA parts are painted
I would appreciate comments as I have lots of time to try and do this right the first time.
[Modified by jims73, 2:46 AM 11/29/2003]
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (jims73)
jim73 it is a good plan. The part about checking play before taking apart. I do not know how to look at a bearing and decide if it is still good. Get the part numbers off the bearing and any bearing supply house sells new bearings and races cheap. If I was going to the trouble of taking it apart I would replace. For $30CDN per side a bearing supply house will have the bearings/seat/seals.
Stay away from the deal on these parts. The price skyrockets.
I also like to polish the inner bearing mount to make the bearing slid on easier.
I drilled and installed grease fittings on the carrier for future greasing but you have to be careful on how much grease you pump in or you will blow the seals.
Stay away from the deal on these parts. The price skyrockets.
I also like to polish the inner bearing mount to make the bearing slid on easier.
I drilled and installed grease fittings on the carrier for future greasing but you have to be careful on how much grease you pump in or you will blow the seals.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (norvalwilhelm)
As Norval said, if you're going to remove the bearings, then replace them. I wouldn't reuse them once you pressed them off. The pressure required to remove them would probably damage them anyway. Ck the archives there's a ton of info there.
Good luck,
Gary
Good luck,
Gary
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (gtr1999)
Gary, I found an archive post in which you discussed photos of the rear bearing set-up process. Are the photos still available? It would be much appreciated as the GM service manual is a little short on detail.
Thanks
Jim
Thanks
Jim
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (jims73)
Jim I think I still have them at work. If not I can scan pictueres of the rear bearings and parts from the last car I did. Let me know what you need.
Gary
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (gtr1999)
Gary, if the photos are handy, send them over to "jsorokan@sympatico.ca". I'm on a DSL, so file size is not a problem.
Thanks much.
Jim
[Modified by jims73, 2:46 PM 11/30/2003]
Thanks much.
Jim
[Modified by jims73, 2:46 PM 11/30/2003]
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (aardvark)
The name of the game is to have the proper tools....I was at Bairs and had the opportunity to observe the break down process....a sledge hammer and a sleeve that's screwed on the axle...this piece is available from any vette vendor, a couple good whacks and voila...all appart. The most difficult procedure is shimming, the know how, everything else is a walk in the park.
All the tools to break down the axle assemblies and assemble, are available from the vendors, unless you are handy to make your own tools and jigs
All the tools to break down the axle assemblies and assemble, are available from the vendors, unless you are handy to make your own tools and jigs
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (aardvark)
if you don't mind getting dirty, it's not that bad of a job. if you don't have all the tools, you can remove the spindles with basic shop tools. you can have new bearings set by a local vette shop. and you don't have to remove the trailing arms.
i did mine 3 years ago ( i went in a virgin too) and they are perfect today. seems like too many people are afraid to tackle the rear wheel bearings for some reason or another. like i said, it's more dirty than complex.
but, it depends on what you want. if you want new looking arms and parts, send them out. if you just want to replace the bearings...it's doable. besides. it's a good education for you.
i did mine 3 years ago ( i went in a virgin too) and they are perfect today. seems like too many people are afraid to tackle the rear wheel bearings for some reason or another. like i said, it's more dirty than complex.
but, it depends on what you want. if you want new looking arms and parts, send them out. if you just want to replace the bearings...it's doable. besides. it's a good education for you.
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Re: Rear wheel bearings? (aardvark)
I personally didn't take a chance having some mechanic messing up the bearing install... I replaced the whole trailing arm + bearing assemblies with pro built Van Steel Units and they are great!!!