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Thanks completely to Stinger 66

There is something about the members here which is the reason I have remained in the hobby and Steve is the ultimate gentleman and I am indepted to him.
Okay the problem was in my theory of the black wire running from the distributer. I assumed all it was was a ground. When the points open the distributer ground is lost and the coil doesn't fire until the high point of the cam lobe passes. Well I had assumed that black wire was a ground so when I ran it to the coil I also tied it into the ground for the elec choke to minimize the amount of wires cluttering up the intake, what this did was cause a dead circuit effectively killing the ignition. Once we removed the choke ground which I decided not to use at all the engien fired right up after some distributer movement. In went the Pertronix 2 and I proceded to tune LARS style for 36 degrees total advance. By the time I got 36 degrees the distributer's vac. advance canister was pointing directly forward causing the tach cable to go into a 90 degree bend and I lost the tach due to pinched tach cable. I and steve reassesed the dist. was indeed firing at #1 plug while at #1 TDC Compression and it is. If I remove and slide the distributer enough to clear the cable then at #1 compression the rotor would be pointing to # 2 wire. Was the cam incorrectly degreed? Anyway I could move all the plug wires around to meet this need i.e. 1 goes to 2, 2 goes to 7 etc. etc and then I could move the distributer to it's normal position or I could get one of those 90 degrees bends for the cable drive. Which do you think? I don't want to mess with the timing becuase it is perfectly set now but I lose the tach no good there.

Anyway I took her out and opened her up. :eek: pulled strong up to where I thought was 5 grand (remember no tach) and she went back to a nice idle afterwards. Did 5 WOT pulls from a ded stop and no problems. Put about 10 miles on it and she handles quite well for manual brakes, steering. I could get used to being manual I think. Anyway she's on the road so I'm happy now what about the dist position what you think?

 

:thumbs: Good job. And yes once you are comfortable with the firing order you can get creative with plug wire locations. Thats how I got my tach cable off the firewall. :cool:

 

I'm glad to hear you got it figured out!!
That sure is one badass 66 too!!! :cool: :party:


[Modified by Zack Wenning, 12:12 AM 12/5/2003]

 

dead up . it's bad. now you can get some sleep!!!!!!!

 

:cheers:

 

:cheers: Once I break in my 4:10's, it's on baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :steering:

 

Yep that seems to be the ticket, take 1 to 2, 2 to 7, 7 to 5, 5 to 6, 6 to 3, 3 to 4, 4 to 8 and 8 to 1 then it's still in sequence but shifted one to the drivers side and I can shift the distributer to the right thereby canceling the movement of plugs, of course retime it. Wow that 36 degrees timing really works. Maybe going from a l-82 to a L79 may explain it but that engine has way more torque than cali -1 ever had.

 

Good to hear you got her running David. There's some great people on this forum that's for sure. I don't know how many times I have walked away from vettes for another day when things don't go right. You had alot of support in a couple of previous threads(and mine isn't running either), so who am I to talk. :cheers:

 

:cheers:

 

In the C5???? Yeah but I'll still be cooler looking. BTW it's got a pretty healthy cam in it almost hard to tell if it needs timing or it sounds that way, Steve said it's the cam.

 

David,
To get the distrib in the right position you'd need to pull it again, take a large screwdriver and move the oil pump drive counterclockwise 1/8 of a turn(1/4 turn if you're off 2 terminals) and drop the distributor back in. Mark the rotor position on the body of the distributor before you pull it so you can line up the rotor to your mark and be close enough to fire up and then reset the initial timing. You could move the wires like you mentioned below... but I like to keep the #1 terminal located where it's supposed to be.
I'm glad to hear you're up an running!

Greg





[Modified by LeAnn82Collector, 6:13 AM 12/5/2003]

 

Heh check this shiznit out, After dinner I mocked up the movement I needed to clear the dist. It's exactly two sparkcaps over from where it normally would be. All I have to do is remove the cap and mark where the rotor is on the outside of the base of the distributer and take a mental note of which plug wire was directly above it. Then turn the dsitributer to desired location and move that plug wire with mark below it to the new position that matches up to where the rotor sits. Then do same to rest of the plugs Then retune might be off 2 degrees or so but damn close.

 

Hi Dave... Well I finally made it home some 5 hrs later....FREEEEEKIN TRAFFFIC....and my car hates stop and go as much as my left leg does... :cry :bs

Yes, you can make any place on the distributor #1 that you want and run the cables as you normally would from that point..
But I'm sure you wont go more than one spot,, I hope but yaknow that many tach drive distributors are able to have the gear removed and set in from the other direction, allowing you more options for the tach cable vs. fireing order location..Im not sure about those original equipment ones tho..

It is great to hear that the points are a thing of the past for you,,, IMHO they suck, and when given an option,,, they are history..

Did the miss you said you had upon taking delivery of the car go away now?

You have yourself one nice 68' there Dave.. and knowing you it will only get nicer with time...Good Luck again

Steve :steering: :steering: :rofl:

 

:iagree:

 

I accomplished pretty much the same thing by going for a test drive with my distributor shielding not properly screwed in. The shielding slipped down and touched the coil terminals, shorting it out and stopping me in my tracks. Figured that one out pretty quick. Here is a heads up: Next time you car turns over buy will not start, suspect the Pertronix unit first! Don't waste too much time trouble shooting other stuff. MJ

 

Steve thanks again and yes the miss is completely gone. With tach not working I'm guessing i'm at 7-750 RPM with nice steady idle and no miss. The 36 degree timing really did it. I used the 2 gold light HEI springs and it came in total timing at guestimate 2500 RPM.

THANKS...

David

 

:iagree:

I tried the plug wire shuffle and it did not align it properly, pull the dist and move the oil pump rod a little with a ling screw driver or oil pump primer if you have one.

Great to hear it is running again. :party:

 

Glad to hear you got it running Dave....Time for some cruising. :steering:

I also agree with moving the distributer and getting it in the correct position.

 

Dave, I am glad to hear you got it going. I knew you could get it. Get out there today and burn some gas today. :cheers:

 

Way to go man ! :party: